How old is SageTV?

[IVB]

I was curious as to how old SageTV is (well, wondering who has been using it longer than me, other than stanger/other usual suspects of course). I see this post from 2/2003, was it really only first available then?

I ask b/c I found post #28 (quoted below) on this forum, dated 2/27/2003. I bought Sage somewhere around 9/03, and from how easy it was to setup and how stable it's been, it's hard to comprehend that it had only launched 6 months beforehand.

Not that I really need to know, just curious.

Originally Posted by Narflex

Welcome to the SageTV Software Forum on the Frey Technologies forums.

This forum is for discussion related to the SageTV application produced by Frey Technologies. Questions, issues, problems, suggestions, etc. relating to the SageTV software application should be posted here.

Thanks for your interest,

[GKusnick]

Narflex's profile page shows he joined the forum on 02-13-2003, for whatever that's worth.

(By an odd coincidence, it also shows that he and I share a birthday.)

[IVB]

oh, happy day-after-both-of-your-birthdays!

[Fuzzy]

the forum itself was started in 2003, though I'm pretty sure the underlinings of Sage were being developed for years beforehand. Remember, it was mostly a brother collaboration to begin with.

[gplasky]

The company was founded in 2002 as Frey Technologies, LLC and changed its name to SageTV, LLC in 2005.

Earliest beta: Version 1.2.2 March 26,2003

SageTV Service no longer requires a subscription fee: May 19. 2003

Sage Client first available: May 31, 2003

Sage TV Version 2:May 12, 2004

Initial public SageTV Version 3.0.5 beta has been released with HDTV support: July 22, 2005 (Version 3 never released)

SageTV Version 4.0 Available with Studio Available: Nov. 11, 2005

SageTV Version 4.1 Available with core support MVP: Dec. 15, 2005

SageTV for Linux (OEM) Available: Jan. 4, 2006

SageTV V4.1.7 Beta with PlaceShifter: Feb. 20, 2006

SageTV Version 5.0 Available: April 25, 2006

SageTV Wireless MVP Available: May 31, 2006

SageTV Version 6.0 Available: Dec. 18. 2006

SageTV for Macintosh V6.2 Released: June, 26, 2007

STX-HD100 Released: Dec. 10, 2007

SageTV Version 6.3 released: Dec. 11, 2007

SageTV Version 6.4 released: Aug. 18, 2008

STP-HD200 HD Theater Available: Dec. 16, 2008

SageTV Version 6.5 released: Feb. 3, 2009

SageTV V6.6 Released: June 23, 2009


Gerry

[tmiranda]

OK Gerry, you're elected as the official SageTV historian

Tom

[reggie14]

Another important milestone was obtaining nation-wide EPG support, which didn't happen until 10/28/2003. I had to use XMLTV before that.

To nitpick, v2 wasn't released until 5/2/2004. It was the beta that came out in December of 2003.

And, I still say version 3 was released- they just called it version 4. If I remember correctly, SageTV justified the move to v4 by saying it included SageTV Studio, which wasn't in the v3 betas. But, I think they were just trying to keep up in version numbering to BeyondTV, who released version 4 at about the same time.

By the way, in a different thread I posted a history of SageTV releases (I was arguing it had been an extraordinarily long time since a SageTV beta). It's a little more detailed when it comes to showing beta releases, but it doesn't talk about Linux/Mac versions at all. Since this will presumably by the SageTV history thread, I thought I'd post it over here too.

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A Not-so-Brief History of SageTV Releases

05-31-2003 Sage v1.3

08-27-2003 Sage v1.4

12-04-2003 Sage v2 beta

05-12-2004 Sage v2 release
Included major UI improvements.

10-13-2004 Sage v2.1 beta

11-03-2004 Sage v2.1 release

01-12-2005 Sage v3.0 announcement
Note: No software was released. Sage just created an official SageTV v3 thread.

03-07-2005 Sage v2.2 release

07-22-2005 Sage v3.0.3 beta
First public beta for 3.0 (I think).

10-17-2005 Sage v3.0.13 RC2
First public RC for 3.0 (I think). 3.0 plus SageTV Studio basically became v4.0.

11-02-2005 Sage v4.0 release
First official release with Studio SDK.

12-15-2005 Sage v4.1 release
First to include official extender support (MediaMVP).

02-20-2006 Sage v4.1.7 beta
First public beta to have Placeshifter support. This beta led to Sage v5.

04-25-2006 Sage v5.0 release

05-31-2006 Sage v5.0.4 release
Added wMVP support.

10-02-2006 Sage v6.0.11 beta
First public beta for v6.

12-18-2006 Sage v6.0 release
Included relatively major UI enhancements. This release possibly added DVD folder support on extenders.

02-16-2007 SageTV V6.1.3 RC
First public beta for Sage v6.1.

04-05-2007 Sage v6.1 release
Youtube and HDHR support.

06-29-2007 Sage v6.2.4 beta
First public beta for Sage v6.2.

09-17-2007 Sage v6.2 release
Added ClearQAM support for multiple tuners.

11-08-2007 Sage v6.3.1 beta
First public beta for Sage v6.3.

12-11-2007 Sage v6.3 release
Added HD100 support.

02-28-2008 Sage v6.3.10 RC
Maintenance release for Sage v6.3.

05-08-2008 Sage v6.4.2 beta
First public beta for Sage v6.4.

08-18-2008 Sage v6.4 release
Added HD-PVR support.

11-15-2008 Sage v6.5.1 beta
First public beta for sage v6.5.

02-03-2009 Sage v6.5 release
Added HD200 support.

02-26-2009 Sage v6.5.11 beta
First public beta that led to Sage v6.6.

06-23-2009 Sage v6.5.18 RC
First RC from a long string of betas that led to v6.6.

07-23-2009 Sage v6.6 release
Added CC and BDMV support.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by reggie14

To nitpick, v2 wasn't released until 5/2/2004. It was the beta that came out in December of 2003.

Corrrections made to original post.

Originally Posted by tmiranda

OK Gerry, you're elected as the official SageTV historian

Tom

Looks like I've been voted out of office. I was just trying to list some major highlights and not all the betas. But reggie 14 picked up my slack. Nice job.

Gerry

[IVB]

wow, that's amazing that it was commercially available on 5/31/03, and I bought in mid-sept-ish (aka, 3.5 months later) and it was mega-stable.

Thanks for the rundown, very interesting.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by IVB

wow, that's amazing that it was commercially available on 5/31/03, and I bought in mid-sept-ish (aka, 3.5 months later) and it was mega-stable.

That's been one of Sage's strong points, and probably what has kept a lot of us here. Sage works, whether the GUI is up to date or not

[fidget]

Originally Posted by IVB

wow, that's amazing that it was commercially available on 5/31/03, and I bought in mid-sept-ish (aka, 3.5 months later) and it was mega-stable.

Thanks for the rundown, very interesting.

I originally had a TiVo series 1 and was looking for something that could handle multiple tuners. Since buying SageTV at the end of June 2003, my system has gone through multiple changes (having the PVR-350 drive my TV, adding a MediaMVP, going from PCI based encoders to USB, and finally transitioning to HD with the HDHR, HD-PVR and HD extenders). There are more than a few people inside Rockwell Collins who run SageTV because of my good experiences with the system.

[IVB]

Originally Posted by stanger89

That's been one of Sage's strong points, and probably what has kept a lot of us here. Sage works, whether the GUI is up to date or not

Well in my case, it's a cause/effect thing. I still use the base GUI, but that's b/c the wife enjoys the stability and has grown to understand it & where everything is. When I tried switching to SageMC, her response was 'oh geez, what did you do, put it back to how it was because i know how to make that work'.

She lives with enough 'enhancing' other places, so i'll let her have the stock Sge GUI...

[MattHelm]

Originally Posted by stanger89

... whether the GUI is up to date or not

Hummmm.. Look at the GUI for 15 seconds, watch TV for 40+ minutes. What GUI????