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Is there only one output format for SageTV?
I noticed that the Arcsoft Software that comes bundled with the Hauppauge HD-PVR outputs in three formats, one of which I can play via PC streaming on my Samsung Blu-ray Player (BD-P4600). This is the one that's compatible with XBOX. The Samsung manual says that it plays MP3, JPEG, or DIVX content; but I've verified that it plays the files produced by Arcsoft Total Media Extreme with the MP4 file extension. So can I use SageTV for this output, or am I stuck with Arcsoft?
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"Using Sage" to play back videos is a rather open ended question. Do you want to use Sage to play on your PC? Your X Box or would you Luke to use an extender (like the HD-200)? If you want to play back on your PC, you will need to have the proper decoder installed.
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[Update: I just checked, and it looks like there's a conversion to Apple TV wide format, high quality, that would be ideal. However, it doesn't look like SageTV will produce that output without the intervening step of conversion, and it looks like that can't be done automatically. But maybe there's a way...?] Last edited by freewheeling; 12-06-2009 at 08:32 PM. Reason: update |
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.ts is just a container format, Transport Stream. I know that you can choose between the ts or standard MPEG container on the HDHomeRun, but i don't know if the same is true for the HD-PVR.
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If you just add an extender at the TV, you can do everything you do on the PC there too. That and the TV will display almost all formats rather then the few it can decode.
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I don't know what a container format is. Don't know what H.264 means either. |
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Well, for another few hundred dollars. I was hoping to use what I have. Also, I'm out of HDMI and component connections on the TV, so I'd have to unplug something.
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TS = Transport Stream. Program Stream (PS) is another container format. h.264 is an encoding format. It generates smaller files that MPEG-2 and of a higher quality. h.264 is one of the formats used in BluRay disks.
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Well, but I guess my question is: Can SageTV do what the ArcSoft software does, and record in an MP4 or AVI format (either of which can be read and played on the Samsung). I know it can convert them, but conversion is a rather tedious process.
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Try editing the properties file to encode as a prgram stream (.mpg) and see if that works on your TV.
encode_digital_tv_as_program_stream Set this value to true You have to exit SageTV and quite the SageTV service if you're running in service mode. The properties file is located (typically) in C:\program files\sagetv\sagetv\sage.properties Not sure if it'll even work with HD PVR, but it's worth a try. Good luck.
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Thanks, Clift. Will try that. Just for the heck of it I converted an hour-long show to the highest quality HDTV AVI format to see how much memory it takes, and it's exactly the same amount as the original .ts file.
I can play these on my computer, but they're pretty herky jerky. I may have to get the extender, but I want to try this first. The Samsung plays these files very nicely. Update: This is all that's in my properties file. Nothing about encoding anything: Code:
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ui/numeric_text_input_fr_1=1*?"\\/'`.,\:;@$&\!-+_() ui/numeric_text_input_fr_1_lower=1*?"\\/'`.,\:;@$&\!-+_() ui/numeric_text_input_fr_2=ABC2 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_2_lower=abc2 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_3=DEF3 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_3_lower=def3 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_4=GHI4 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_4_lower=ghi4 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_5=JKL5 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_5_lower=jkl5 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_6=MNO6 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_6_lower=mno6 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_7=PQRS7 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_7_lower=pqrs7 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_8=TUV8 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_8_lower=tuv8 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_9=WXYZ9 ui/numeric_text_input_fr_9_lower=wxyz9 Last edited by Opus4; 12-07-2009 at 10:52 AM. 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I guess what I'm not sure about, from the above post, is what line edit I should make in the properties file. Is this the right syntax:
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I think you may be looking in the wrong properties file. There is a Sage.properties and also a Sage.properties.defaults. I think you have the second one opened. I know that sounds/looks confusing. This is how it is for me at least. Look in the Sage.properties and I that will help. In my properties file, the encode_digital_tv_as_program_stream came after mmc/ so you may look closely.
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There isn't a Sage.properties file, just a Sage.properties.default file. I looked in all the directories and subdirectories. [Update: I found it. See post #21.) Last edited by freewheeling; 12-07-2009 at 09:42 PM. |
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Gerry
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Something worth trying: take the videos Sage records and rename one of them to
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something.mpg -> something.mp4
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I'm not using SageTV Client. I just have one PC. No extenders or anything. I have a Mac on the network, but it doesn't have any Sage software on it. |
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Hmm, I was just basing this off of my SageTV folder setup. It may not have a .properties extension actually in the name of the file. It may just be a properties file named Sage. I know when I first edited something in the file, I overlooked it and had a hard time finding it.
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[Update: I found it. See post #21.] Last edited by freewheeling; 12-07-2009 at 09:43 PM. |
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