Is this community dying already?

[SteveD]

I will use sagetv as long as it works, see no need to abandon.

[toricred]

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

Also +1.

But things have been much better lately, angry people have either come to terms with things or just moved on.

(Also +1 on the summer vacation thing)

And another +1

[simonen]

I find myself coming back less often since the beer conversations have died off.

My need for Sage came to a halt about 10 months ago, but I may pick it up again when I return back to the States.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

I'll admit that this forum is no longer the first thing I look at when I sit down at my computer in the morning. Not because of the Google buyout per se, but because of the endless hand-wringing, name-calling, and finger-pointing that followed. The kind of bile that's been spewed here is a real turnoff for me. So if the community is dying, it's largely from self-inflicted wounds in my opinion.

I do still use Sage and have no immediate plans to change.

Yet another +1. I'm expecting good things from Jeff.

[stuckless]

Personally, SageTV is setup and working well, and I'm not really that concerned about the future at this point. I'm even less concerned about people's thoughts on the google buyout

It's summer, and to be honest, I'd much rather spend my free time playing golf, walking the dog, etc, rather than sitting in front of the computer.

But, I still make some time BMT, sagex-apis, and Phoenix...and yeah, I still check the forums a couple times a day

[bunch92]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

I'll admit that this forum is no longer the first thing I look at when I sit down at my computer in the morning. Not because of the Google buyout per se, but because of the endless hand-wringing, name-calling, and finger-pointing that followed. The kind of bile that's been spewed here is a real turnoff for me. So if the community is dying, it's largely from self-inflicted wounds in my opinion.

I do still use Sage and have no immediate plans to change.

+1 , that is exactly it

[bits]

I will use Sage until it no longer works or until I decide to go in a different direction.

It is understandable that the traffic in this forum is decreasing and that is as it should be. After all SageTV is dead, it no longer exists and this is not a whine or a gripe....its just reality.

I do check in a few times a week and I am glad that it is still as vibrant as it is but I fully expect it to diminish more and more as time rolls along.

[mguebert]

I am continuing to use my Sage setup happily and will continue to until I no longer can keep it functioning. My sincere hope is that we will have a future for our hardware and software investment. Until I am told otherwise by the powers that be I will continue to hope

[rockinray]

+1 - my system is rock solid and I never have to mess around with it.

It "just works" and I work it hard!

[panteragstk]

I like to come back just to help out the people that have issues. I just got a colossus so I've been going through that thread trying all the tricks. So far so good.

[jchiso]

I also plan to stay around for as long as Sage works, but the forum does seem to be less helpful with user problems these days. There seems to be so much talk about enhancements, alternatives, and plug-ins, and very little about generic SageTV funtionality ...

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

I'll admit that this forum is no longer the first thing I look at when I sit down at my computer in the morning. Not because of the Google buyout per se, but because of the endless hand-wringing, name-calling, and finger-pointing that followed. The kind of bile that's been spewed here is a real turnoff for me. So if the community is dying, it's largely from self-inflicted wounds in my opinion.

I do still use Sage and have no immediate plans to change.

Originally Posted by JREkiwi

+1

Originally Posted by evilpenguin

Also +1.

But things have been much better lately, angry people have either come to terms with things or just moved on.

Originally Posted by toricred

And another +1

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Yet another +1. I'm expecting good things from Jeff.

Originally Posted by stuckless

Personally, SageTV is setup and working well, and I'm not really that concerned about the future at this point. I'm even less concerned about people's thoughts on the google buyout

Originally Posted by bunch92

+1 , that is exactly it

Interesting. Thanks for the comments. Most posts talking about the purchase have been left alone, unless the person has broken forum rules, particularly the first rule about remaining civil. But, if the complaint posts are driving people away, I'll start moving the posts in question to a single topic where people can continue to post about the purchase w/o interfering with other discussions.

SageTV, as it is now, still remains useful to many people and I would like to keep this forum welcoming to those who wish to discuss the use of SageTV.

However, those who can't post in a civil manner and insist on posting insults are invited to find another forum to post their comments.

- Andy

[toricred]

Personally I would greatly appreciate something being done about the complaints. I am spookier tired of reading the vitriolic posts.

[heffe2001]

Originally Posted by Opus4

Interesting. Thanks for the comments. Most posts talking about the purchase have been left alone, unless the person has broken forum rules, particularly the first rule about remaining civil. But, if the complaint posts are driving people away, I'll start moving the posts in question to a single topic where people can continue to post about the purchase w/o interfering with other discussions.

SageTV, as it is now, still remains useful to many people and I would like to keep this forum welcoming to those who wish to discuss the use of SageTV.

However, those who can't post in a civil manner and insist on posting insults are invited to find another forum to post their comments.

- Andy

I haven't seen any complaint posts that would drive me away. Honestly I think what's causing people to look elsewhere for their DVR needs is the complete lack of any real new info about the future of SageTV. As of tomorrow, it's been 2 months since the buy-out annoucement, and really, the only information from the company is that they are under an NDA, and can't discuss anything. The only thing released by Sage has been the fixed exe's for people who didn't get to buy a Sage 7.x upgrade key, and a few STV fixes.

I would think a simple answer to the question of continuing development of the Sage systems as they are now (in other words, are we going to ever see a SageTV v8 or beyond), or is the server/client model for SageTV dead? My hope is that the lack of an annoucement that SageTV as we know it is dead and gone means that work is still going on for the software we use now. I know it's against the long-standing Sage policy to discuss any ongoing development, but it would sure put a stop to the "Should I stay or should I bail" posts if Sage would be allowed to post up at least a tiny bit of info about future development...

[will]

Originally Posted by heffe2001

I haven't seen any complaint posts that would drive me away.

+1

Originally Posted by heffe2001

Sage would be allowed to post up at least a tiny bit of info about future development...

+1

[Rob]

Originally Posted by Opus4

I'll start moving the posts in question to a single topic where people can continue to post about the purchase w/o interfering with other discussions.

Sounds like a good idea to me. I've done my venting, but it appears some are still needing/wanting to vent. Let them vent in one place without it infecting thread after thread.

[pjpjpjpj]

wayner, since you started this thread asking if people were leaving the forum and you yourself hadn't even noticed ADM - which has been out for a month and, to me, is the most important plugin since v7 was released - maybe you're the one who hasn't been here as much? <--emoticons mean I'm just teasing

As for the other offshoot topic that has come into this thread, I'm not going anywhere, and nothing anyone has posted has bothered me. The "oh no!" threads just serve to show how reactionary some people are, and also as a vent for people who want to spew their conspiracy theories about, and/or hatred of, Google (or large, rich, powerful companies in general). The people who said "that's it, I'm outta here" just killed me... really? And the people who whined (and still are) about the lack of information - and especially those who tried to read something evil into that lack of information - obviously know nothing about the American corporate mergers and acquisitions (that being, nobody is allowed to say anything and nothing will happen soon because these things take a looooong time). Apologies to those here who aren't American and couldn't be expected to understand.

That said, I did enjoy the digression into beer talk.

[panteragstk]

I'm sick of the complaints, but people can complain if they want. If they want to waste their time that's fine with me. Complaining about something they can't control is annoying, but they feel as if they've been left out in the cold. I guess they can't handle not knowing what will happen. I personally don't care what happens as long as I get my guide data and the forums don't close. My software works, and will continue to do so until I break it.

[valnar]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

I'll admit that this forum is no longer the first thing I look at when I sit down at my computer in the morning. Not because of the Google buyout per se, but because of the endless hand-wringing, name-calling, and finger-pointing that followed. The kind of bile that's been spewed here is a real turnoff for me. So if the community is dying, it's largely from self-inflicted wounds in my opinion.

I do still use Sage and have no immediate plans to change.

Another +1.

I only update the plugins and Sage components now as they pop up on my screen. I really don't need any more functionality since everything as-is is still miles better than the alternatives. If the EPG can make it through another season to next Summer or beyond, I'll be a happy camper.

Andy, we only ask that if you plan on turning off the EPG data, give us a heads up if Google allows you to. If you know that Google WON'T give you or us advanced notice, then tell us that now so we won't be surprised if it happens without warning.....and we all have to read even more bitchy posts.

[thomaszoo]

First, thanks for creating the "[Pointless Dribble]" thread. Great to see that Narflex is still with us.

Two of the most recent plugins that I use are the MultiUser Support and ADM, both things that I have always wanted in Sage. It doesn't seem any quieter than a usual summer here to me. It would be interesting to see some numbers for comparison (I wouldn't be surprised if there is actually a little more activity than normal).

Sage is working great for me and, although I have thought about changing, I haven't seen anything out there that makes me want to give up what I currently have. I plan to continue using it at least until the native EPG support ends and then I will probably just use whatever plugin or workaround is available. The only things I still really want that Sage never gave me are cable-card support including the extenders (for the record once channels) and something better for music. I am close to the cable card support with SageDCT (only the premiums are recorded with the HD PVR).

Wayne