Stay or Bail ?

[doncote0]

There are NOT tons of DVBViewer posts here in the board. Tons would be shown by "The following words are either very common, too long, or too short and were not included in your search". That will probably never happen.
Congrats on your 127 different references.

You now have more references than "porn" (50), but less than "school" (stopped counting at 300), less than "yahoo" (262) and less than mythtv (stopped counting at 300).
Even BeyondTV is over 300 which I guess you could call a lot for something that no longer exists.

Sorry if you are pissed by the fact that your 80 bucks are gone in the wind, well not my problem.

You are sorry, but I am not bothered even in the slightest by my investment in SageTV.

How many of you guys are signing into this account to post responses anyway? You are obviously not the same person that posted earlier. Either that or the translation method "was displeased' with you in earlier posts.

And believe it or not, i'm not the author, but quite funny that you suggest that.

You assume too much and say very little. I never said that you were the author--I wouldn't give you that much credit. I agree that is quite a funny idea.

Just for the record:
http://www.google.com/trends?q=dvbvi...tv%2C+beyondtv

So you pointed out the google trend that shows that beyondtv and dvbviewer are not good options. Strange argument, but I agree with that especially since BeyondTV is no longer in existence as a company.

While you are there, why don't you put in SageTV and check the trends? Virtually all PVR programs got smacked in the face due to the digital conversion, but do you see that large jump increase in 2011 to the present? Cool. DVBViewer is not even in the top 10 for any category for anything even remotely related to North America.

Lets stay with ... your ... software and be happy.

I am thank you. You did say "lets" though, does that mean you are staying too? I understand.

I just pinpointed 2 possible alternativex (XBMC and DVBViewer).

Is that math now or just counting? Or did your search engine tell you that equals 2?

I do not know any extender which does not support UPNP, this means they ALL work with software provides that standard.

So if you do not know about it, then it must not exist?

I uhm better get out of here,

That is an excellent idea!

[doncote0]

For all your insistence on not caring, you sure seem to type a lot of :words: doncote0.

Seem to? Maybe, but alot of those words were actually cut and pasted. I do not think that using too many words means you care. It may actually mean that the other person is just rude and unreasonable and you have had enough.

Do you let people mouth off about anything you care about and say nothing? I usually do, until I've heard enough. Being a Sith penguin, I am sure you can understand wanting to swat that annoying fly out of the air with a light saber, DaiTengu.

I care about SageTV, I care about this forum and the SageTV-using members. I do not care about DVBViewer.

Now that I have an idea where that DVBViewer posting comes from, I would say that my opininon is changing from "not caring about" to "having no respect for" DVBViewer.

[ThePaladinTech]

Originally Posted by APillowOfClouds

Sage/Google if you are listening, the OVERWHELMING theme in every "what should we do" thread on here is that all of us have tried all sorts of other software and Sage beats all of them hands down.* So maybe don't do away with it just yet. Just slap a Google doodle on it and ship 8.0. We'll buy it.

*=Except for maybe DVBViewer

+1

+* LOL

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by Localhorst

There is a search function, if you use it and type DVBViewer as search function it will return 127 results in 6 pages.

127 results out of a half million posts, fifty thousand threads and over sixteen thousand members, I don't call that a lot.

This is in my eyes quite a lot for a software which is also used as DVR.

Huh?

Sorry if you are pissed by the fact that your 80 bucks are gone in the wind, well not my problem.

I am very happy with my, quite a lot more than $80 investment in SageTV, I have absolutely no regrets.

Lets stay with the relicts of your overprized software and be happy. I just pinpointed 2 possible alternativex (XBMC and DVBViewer).

I'm more than happy to pay for software that works. And contrary to what the "software should be free" crowd think, I've had much, much better luck with paid-for software than with free software overall.

I do not know any extender which does not support UPNP, this means they ALL work with software provides that standard.

But UPnP sucks compared to native support.

[SWKerr]

I will stay until I can find something better. The pieces are in place to run SageTV as is for a very long time. Right now I have a very solid HD setup that covers 6 screens. I will wait for a clear direction on the future of GoogleTV and see what that brings.

I have MCE and Xbox360 hanging off my current SageTV server. (Had it for years). It does not deleiver what Sage does.

I setup NextPVR and MediaPortal over the weekend just to see where they were at and it will be awhile before they get to where I am today with SageTV. I will continue to look around but will not move until I can get a better solution.

I think the leading contender will be MediaPortal with XBMC as the front end. The Apple TV2 with XBMC may even work as an extender but the current MPEG2 problems make that questionable at this point.

[trallyus]

I setup Mediaportal and NPVR as well and Mediaportal was easier to setup for me, I had a hard time getting the guide data to populate for it as I could not figure it out.

As for NPVR I had a heck of a time with that until I installed AC3Filter as up until I did that I had no sound. Love NPVR's way of populating the guide with data from the tuners themselves One thing I did not like was when watching CoolTV on live tv with NPVR , it would end up getting out of sync or cutting out when playing the videos.

I guess I am used to sage tv and am pampered but I tend to stick it out until Google and Narflex get a new product out the door hopefully and then if the price is right and there is a one time fee , I'll probably update to what ever they have in plan

If worse comes to worse and they make sage go away completely, I will probably go with Windows Media Center as I set that up in the past and had no problems with it that I can remember. Not sure if I can use it to stream my recordings to the upstairs computer but if need be I will look in to it.

Never did get an email from sage tv saying they were bought by google yet like others received so I am still waiting for the email others got unless they wrote narflex and got them.

[graywolf]

Originally Posted by trallyus

I setup Mediaportal and NPVR as well and Mediaportal was easier to setup for me, I had a hard time getting the guide data to populate for it as I could not figure it out.

As for NPVR I had a heck of a time with that until I installed AC3Filter as up until I did that I had no sound. Love NPVR's way of populating the guide with data from the tuners themselves One thing I did not like was when watching CoolTV on live tv with NPVR , it would end up getting out of sync or cutting out when playing the videos.

I guess I am used to sage tv and am pampered but I tend to stick it out until Google and Narflex get a new product out the door hopefully and then if the price is right and there is a one time fee , I'll probably update to what ever they have in plan

If worse comes to worse and they make sage go away completely, I will probably go with Windows Media Center as I set that up in the past and had no problems with it that I can remember. Not sure if I can use it to stream my recordings to the upstairs computer but if need be I will look in to it.

Never did get an email from sage tv saying they were bought by google yet like others received so I am still waiting for the email others got unless they wrote narflex and got them.

There was a post by Narflex which clarified it was not a mass mailing, he just went thru his list and picked certain names.

I never got the e-mail either.

[trallyus]

Thanks Graywolf. I did not see that post as it's hard to keep up with all the posts flying on the board since the buyout

[bcjenkins]

A point of clarification for those who may need it. I use my extenders for quite a bit more than just playing back content. When someone can show me a unit that does everything that SageTV does in an extender and is available to consumers, please let me know.

B

[DaiTengu]

I've spent the day talking to a friend of mine who has a Ceton card and uses WMC. He's convinced me to give WMC a shot again.

I've finally narrowed down the most important features I need for a HTPC setup, and that's recording TV, cutting out/skipping commercials, compressing/converting it, and dumping it into a folder named for the show/season.

WMC does not do this, but apparently there are other programs that do which will then tell WMC where the file has been moved to or whatever.

I'm going to spend this weekend playing around with it. Weekends are now my "what else is out there" days

[panteragstk]

I think that when our guide data stops (the only reason to leave sage IMHO) the mediaportal/xbmc setup will be the way to go. From what I can see XBMC offers pretty much everything that sage does with the exception of PVR functionality. They are working on it, and in a year or so I hope it will work well. I can't see myself ever going back to a STB for PVR use. Never.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by DaiTengu

I've finally narrowed down the most important features I need for a HTPC setup, and that's recording TV, cutting out/skipping commercials, compressing/converting it, and dumping it into a folder named for the show/season.

WMC does not do this, but apparently there are other programs that do which will then tell WMC where the file has been moved to or whatever.

Just don't expect to be able to do that on CableCard recordings if that was your plan. You may be able to, but it's a crapshoot.

[sleonard]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

I think that when our guide data stops (the only reason to leave sage IMHO) the mediaportal/xbmc setup will be the way to go. From what I can see XBMC offers pretty much everything that sage does with the exception of PVR functionality. They are working on it, and in a year or so I hope it will work well. I can't see myself ever going back to a STB for PVR use. Never.

I'm just the opposite. The only reason I have a ripped DVD/BD collection was because it was built in to Sage and it felt wrong not to take advantage of it.

The centralized server PVR with extenders/clients was and is the only feature I truly care about. The rest is just icing to me.

No PVR, no go.

S

[Mailman74]

I bought some cheap refurbed pcs and put new gpu in them to use as client pc's. I installed windows media center 7 of them and starting to play with wmc. I fairly new to the htpc set up and had sagetv for about 4 months. So far it seems with my set up I can do mostly everything we did with sagetv. We only watch ota and movie collection on server.

[DaveS]

I use 3 HDx00 extenders on my setup, and I have cable, but I only use SageTv for its PVR functionality. Because my cable company marks nearly all channels 'copy once', the Ceton won't work for my Sage setup. I have one HDPVR that works great, but I can't see myself springing for another 2 or 3 of them and also paying the STB rental fees. For that reason I have been thinking about WMC and Xboxes for extenders ever since Ceton became available.

I realize that Xboxes aren't ideal (big, ugly and fans), but I've read that newer Xboxes are much quieter than the old ones. Assuming that's true, and I'm only using the PVR functionality, can I get some feedback to point out the downside (if any) to moving to WMC with the Ceton quad tuner?

[Mailman74]

Originally Posted by DaveS

I use 3 HDx00 extenders on my setup, and I have cable, but I only use SageTv for its PVR functionality. Because my cable company marks nearly all channels 'copy once', the Ceton won't work for my Sage setup. I have one HDPVR that works great, but I can't see myself springing for another 2 or 3 of them and also paying the STB rental fees. For that reason I have been thinking about WMC and Xboxes for extenders ever since Ceton became available.

I realize that Xboxes aren't ideal (big, ugly and fans), but I've read that newer Xboxes are much quieter than the old ones. Assuming that's true, and I'm only using the PVR functionality, can I get some feedback to point out the downside (if any) to moving to WMC with the Ceton quad tuner?

I actually purchase a new 360 4gb slim. I returned it because it could not stream my blu ray rips on my server. I purchased 2 slim factor desktops where I want blu ray access.

The 360 slim was pretty quiet. You can hear the fan whisper but when there is any sound coming from tv you will not hear it.

[Tomahawk51]

So, with WMC 7, is it really the case that there aren't any competent extenders aside from the Xbox 360? Is nothing at parity with the the 360 feature wise?

I took a look around, but didn't find a clear answer...

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by sleonard

I'm just the opposite. The only reason I have a ripped DVD/BD collection was because it was built in to Sage and it felt wrong not to take advantage of it.

The centralized server PVR with extenders/clients was and is the only feature I truly care about. The rest is just icing to me.

No PVR, no go.

S

Ripping dvd's and such is something I've done for years. I've been doing it since before sagetv and wmc existed. Anybody remember the sigma designs xcard? That was the most awesome thing that had ever existed at the time. WMC got me into using the pc for a pvr, but it sucked so I stopped using it. Then I found sage and have been very happy since. Especially since I've only had OTA for almost 4 years.

I hope that the PVR aspect of another software will fill the gap sage will leave when we can't get epg data anymore. I hope that it will be the "future" sage software from google, but only time will tell.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk51

So, with WMC 7, is it really the case that there aren't any competent extenders aside from the Xbox 460? Is nothing at parity with the the 360 feature wise?

I took a look around, but didn't find a clear answer...

As far as I know there is nothing like the sagetv extender. Nothing at all. Some have said gbpvr can use the mvp from hauppauge, but that is a pretty old device.

At this point we would have to build client pc's for every room or use xbmc on an atv2 (with no mpeg2 support so it isn't really a good extender).

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk51

So, with WMC 7, is it really the case that there aren't any competent extenders aside from the Xbox 460? Is nothing at parity with the the 360 feature wise?

It's not a matter of features or parity, there are no other extenders period. All of the other WMC extenders are long since discontinued.