Interesting new tablet

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Debut at CES... discuss....

http://technolog.msnbc.msn.com/_news...ller?GT1=43001

[stuckless]

It looks cool I hope it performs better than the samsung tab. I'm not sure we need an "ipad killer" (although I feel like killing mine just about every time I use it).. we just some something better than the ipad (and let's be honest... that's not a very high bar).

I think now that google is working directly with oem's like motorola, samsung, etc, and they are making the next version of the Android OS to be a tablet OS, there could be some very interesting devices coming out in the next year. And the good news for Apple folks... you an expect to buy a new ipad sometime in April with a bunch of new cool features... just because there is competition... everyone is happy.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by stuckless

It looks cool I hope it performs better than the samsung tab. I'm not sure we need an "ipad killer" (although I feel like killing mine just about every time I use it).. we just some something better than the ipad (and let's be honest... that's not a very high bar).

I think now that google is working directly with oem's like motorola, samsung, etc, and they are making the next version of the Android OS to be a tablet OS, there could be some very interesting devices coming out in the next year. And the good news for Apple folks... you an expect to buy a new ipad sometime in April with a bunch of new cool features... just because there is competition... everyone is happy.

Funny how everyone is rushing to the game now. When apple launched it everyone said it will never sell and there wasn't a market for it. Now every manufacture and their dog are trying to make one...

That being said I don't think the ipad is bad in fact I use mine daily. With RDP features I don't even need to go to a pc to manage my server which is nice. Is it perfect hell no.

I honestly think MS may make the best tablet.

[OneOfMany]

Personally more excited about this - core i5 Client baby..

http://promos.asus.com/US/ASUS_EeeSlate/index.htm

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by OneOfMany

Personally more excited about this - core i5 Client baby..

http://promos.asus.com/US/ASUS_EeeSlate/index.htm

$1000 wow. It looks nice, but I balked at spending $600 for an ipad... I can't imagine spending that kind of money for a tablet... Hopefully by next Xmas, the android tabs will drop a lot in price.

Funny how everyone is rushing to the game now. When apple launched it everyone said it will never sell and there wasn't a market for it. Now every manufacture and their dog are trying to make one..

Let's face it... there are a lot of ipod touch users out there. They couldn't just attach a larger screen to the ipod... the ipad is fills a void

[OneOfMany]

Originally Posted by stuckless

Let's face it... there are a lot of ipod touch users out there. They couldn't just attach a larger screen to the ipod... the ipad is fills a void

Pretty much how I state it myself.. lol

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by stuckless

Let's face it... there are a lot of ipod touch users out there. They couldn't just attach a larger screen to the ipod... the ipad is fills a void

To each their own. I personally use the ipad daily as does my daughter the toddler games on there for learning are nothing short of amazing and simple with the touch interface it is amazing how much she learns just from playing the games on there while having fun at the same time.

Myself I use it for email and flipboard is my favorite app. Presents all my tech sites and news sites in a magazine format really an amazing free app.

To me it is the developers that have made ipad. Hopefully android can do it but they stumbled out the gate by taking a made for phone os and trying to make it work on a large tablet. The same way googletv tried to do. Apple did it right and google did not simple and plan on that aspect. The biggest issue with Android to me is stability there are so many apps out there that are unstable it is embarrassing they need a better review process. Not to the extent of apple control but at least make sure the damn thing works. I mean we are talking everyday users not geeks and most won't put up with apps crashing and will blame the phone not the dev.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

To me it is the developers that have made ipad.

Yeah.. just imagine what it'd be like if anyone was allowed to develop anything they wanted on it...

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Hopefully android can do it but they stumbled out the gate by taking a made for phone os and trying to make it work on a large tablet.

To be fair, Google didn't really have anything to do with the Samsung Tab's and such - they wer ejust using the open source android OS, tweaked by Samsung. This is different. This is actually co-developed by google, much like the original Droid was. And, just like the Droid wasn't the first Android smartphone, this isn't the first android tablet... however, just like the droid... this IS the first truly GOOD one.

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

The same way googletv tried to do. Apple did it right and google did not simple and plan on that aspect. The biggest issue with Android to me is stability there are so many apps out there that are unstable it is embarrassing they need a better review process. Not to the extent of apple control but at least make sure the damn thing works. I mean we are talking everyday users not geeks and most won't put up with apps crashing and will blame the phone not the dev.

Looking through the android marketplace, there are a LOT of bad reviews... and most DO blame the app, not the OS.

[Fonceur]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

To be fair, Google didn't really have anything to do with the Samsung Tab's and such

Actually, with the last few releases Google did give a single manufacturer privileged access, and Samsung got it for 2.3...

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Looking through the android marketplace, there are a LOT of bad reviews... and most DO blame the app, not the OS.

Those are the ones that are smart enough. Trust me the average Joe blow blames the phone I have seen and heard it many times first hand. In reviews and from clients of mine asking why the android phones arent more stable with addins. Apples control is bad but it keeps thinks working for the most part as well.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

The biggest issue with Android to me is stability there are so many apps out there that are unstable it is embarrassing they need a better review process. Not to the extent of apple control but at least make sure the damn thing works. I mean we are talking everyday users not geeks and most won't put up with apps crashing and will blame the phone not the dev.

I wasn't aware that you owned and used an Android device... but congratulations, I hope you can handle the power

I own several ipods, the ipod touch, and the ipad... I've experienced crashes on all the devices. And I've had to hard reset every apple product that I've ever owned. You make it sound like iOS apps never crash. I've even had the safari browser crash several times. Now, apple doesn't call them crashes... they just disappear, which is genious. And yes, i've had my fair share of app crashes on android as well... including the browser... and from time to time, I've had to hard reset my phone. But for the most part, the apps are stable.

iOS and Android are very different platforms. iOS is more like the Xbox or PS3 whereas Android is more like Windows, Mac or Linux. iOS will never innovate at the rate that Android will, simply because you can't do things with it. You'd be amazed how much better your text entry experience on an iphone would be if you had Swype... but you'll never get it because Steve feels that everyone should henpeck their phones. Swype is probably the most innovative product I've seen. When I show it people they are blown away. Now, loyal apple fans will simply argue that the iphone is so perfect in every way, that it doesn't need to innovate with text entry, music players, browsers, etc.

The competition between Apple and Google is good for both of us. Google will try to push the envelope with features (and play catch up in other areas).... and You can enjoy the rewards of background tasks and even simple things like being able to change your wallpaper... all because Google did it first. Without google, you'd have an iphone4 running iOS1.1

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by stuckless

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The competition between Apple and Google is good for both of us. Google will try to push the envelope with features (and play catch up in other areas).... and You can enjoy the rewards of background tasks and even simple things like being able to change your wallpaper... all because Google did it first. Without google, you'd have an iphone4 running iOS1.1

I would argue without apple you wouldnt have the touchscreen smart phones

I agree swype is freaking insanely awesome and amazing. I have used it and it is unbelievable how well it works. Apple will never have it because google was smart and bought it first.

My biggest problem with android experience where the following

1. Synching music is just painful at best to get it organized and requires Thor party apps which is ridiculous.
2. The marketplace was just terribly organized and displayed. I have heard they have or are changing it but it was terrible.
3. It for me didn't bring anything to the table I needed.

Now swype was and is just plain awesome and every phone should have it.

But yes I agree competition keeps them both going.

As long as you can admit googletv was and is dos

[PLUCKYHD]

And and

Yes iOS devices do lockup hell most anything does, but there is a reason apple keeps winning customer satisfaction awards on the iPhone.

I predict when apple launches on verizon it will regain it's market share from google.

[SWKerr]

I have an iPhone 3G and although I like it a lot to it does crash depending on the app. Right now I can't even turn on the calendar associated with the exchange server because it makes the who phone unstable.

Apple fans seem to overstate the stability of their products. I have actually been there with one of them waiting for something, the whole time him talking smack about the stability of windows. What happened, well the app kept crashing and I kept waiting. I like Macs generally but its stability is over stated and offset by the fact you have less outside options to add to the system to make things less stable.

I am going to plug the Archos 70 Internet tablet I got my son for Christmas. It rocks. Had to use a hack to add the Android Market Place but everything I have tried works great. It is fast, lite, and just the right size. Perfect size and weight for an eReader and will play almost any video or music format I have tired. For only $270 it is a much better option than an iPad in my opinion. I would never use a iPad as an eReader it is just to big and heavy.

Also: I really like Android. I would probably not go back to an iPhone at this point but would get one of the new Android options. There is no compelling function in iOS that I can't get on Android.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by SWKerr

I have an iPhone 3G and although I like it a lot to it does crash depending on the app. Right now I can't even turn on the calendar associated with the exchange server because it makes the who phone unstable.

I also had issue with my 3G it really shouldn't be running ios 4.0+ imho. Now the iphone 4 I have had zero issues with. The 3gs and iphone 4 bring great speed improvements which help all around.

Originally Posted by SWKerr

Apple fans seem to overstate the stability of their products. I have actually been there with one of them waiting for something, the whole time him talking smack about the stability of windows. What happened, well the app kept crashing and I kept waiting. I like Macs generally but its stability is over stated and offset by the fact you have less outside options to add to the system to make things less stable.

Less outside options? I disagree as a Mac osx standpoint. Mac os is still the one to beat in many areas (photo and video editing come to mind) granted it takes a $6k mac to do it right but every platform has their advantages. I am by no means a fan boy. I use windows, mac osx and shortly linux in my household. I will say that the macbook pro is hands down the best built laptop I have owned regardless of the os run on it.

Originally Posted by SWKerr

I would never use a iPad as an eReader it is just to big and heavy.

Won't argue that if you buy the ipad as strictly a e-reader you need help, the nook or kindle are far better suited and priced. I wouldn't even recommend the archos as a e-reader.

Originally Posted by SWKerr

Also: I really like Android. I would probably not go back to an iPhone at this point but would get one of the new Android options. There is no compelling function in iOS that I can't get on Android.

See to me the most impressive right now is Windows phone. The ui is nice slick and easy to understand. If they can get the developers behind it that is probably the route I will go come contract reup.

To me the hardest thing to give up in iphone is Itunes. I have all my music and podcost organized perfectly in it and it just makes it easy all my portable devices easy to synch being apple. Now windows 7 can transfer over pretty easy but I tried and android and right now like I stated their music options are terrible. I use my phone as a portable stereo quit often.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I would argue without apple you wouldnt have the touchscreen smart phones

I agree.. which is why I don't want Apple to die... I hate the terms iPad killer or iPhone killer... because i don't want these things to die. Apple took previous ideas, and made them popular (they were not the first to create a touch phone). We need apple so that other companies can continue to innovate. Apple doesn't need to innovate... it can simply buy ad space

I agree swype is freaking insanely awesome and amazing. I have used it and it is unbelievable how well it works. Apple will never have it because google was smart and bought it first.

I wish google would buy them. Swype is not owned by google. My fear is that Apple will simply buy them and then kill the product.

As long as you can admit googletv was and is dos

I'm not sure what that means. Apples first AppleTV was a loser as well. Big company sometimes release products that the market is not yet ready for. I think google will push forward with GoogleTV, and I'd buy one in a heartbeat if it was as open as my phone, and allowed me to push content to my TV. That would be a no brainer.

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I predict when apple launches on verizon it will regain it's market share from google.

It's hard to say. Apple will gain some but there are so many Android devices out there, in so many form factors, in so many configurations, that it only makes sense that Android will eventually dominate the market share. All that fragmentation is going to kill Android, just the same way it killed Microsoft on the PC.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I would argue without apple you wouldnt have the touchscreen smart phones

1. Synching music is just painful at best to get it organized and requires Thor party apps which is ridiculous.
2. The marketplace was just terribly organized and displayed. I have heard they hav
3. It for me didn't bring anything to the table I needed.

I had a tpouchscreen windows phone over a year before the iphone existed. (XV6700 Windows mobile early 2006). It was great, in fact, even then, I could stream sage recordings using VLC.

The only app I use to sync music to my droid is Windows Media Player. Not sure if that meets your definition of 3rd party, but it should be no different than the iTunes requirement. At least. I didn't have to use my computer and install software just to turn the phone on..

[OneOfMany]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I would argue without apple you wouldnt have the touchscreen smart phones

Aw c'mon Plucky, you're starting to sound a litte fanboyish here lol..

I've sold Tablet PCs back in the days when people didn't even know what to do with them. And my touchscreen Omnia with old Win Mo 6 allows me to stream audio right off my WHS. I even skinned it with an IPhone interface to show off to my Apple friends, but the blahness of a bunch of appy buttons is so 80's, the novelty wore off quick. Now it's wearing a Phone7 skin, but it's just for looks.

Phone 7 already has 5,000+ apps available (even that Angry bird one is coming lol), and a much tighter integration of email, contacts, facebooking, mapping, GPS, file sharing, media playing, gameplay and streaming than any other I've used.

Even our own lanmansoft has a Homeseer plugin for it.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by OneOfMany

Aw c'mon Plucky, you're starting to sound a litte fanboyish here lol..

I've sold Tablet PCs back in the days when people didn't even know what to do with them. And my touchscreen Omnia with old Win Mo 6 allows me to stream audio right off my WHS. I even skinned it with an IPhone interface to show off to my Apple friends, but the blahness of a bunch of appy buttons is so 80's, the novelty wore off quick. Now it's wearing a Phone7 skin, but it's just for looks.

Phone 7 already has 5,000+ apps available (even that Angry bird one is coming lol), and a much tighter integration of email, contacts, facebooking, mapping, GPS, file sharing, media playing, gameplay and streaming than any other I've used.

Even our own lanmansoft has a Homeseer plugin for it.

I didn't mean first touchscreen I worded it wrong but they made it acceptable as a smartphone.

And like I said above the w7 phone is the most interesting to me right now. I played with one the other day and was impressed I really like the live tiles very nice.

Stuck less

I could have sworn I read google bought swype maybe I am wrong will look.

[PLUCKYHD]

I was wrong they bought blind type whatever that is....err why not just by swype it works.

http://africa.ibtimes.com/articles/6...ng-youtube.htm