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Old 03-23-2009, 04:44 PM
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My take on the Starbuck/Hybrid thing was that she did lead them all to their end.. Humans and Cylons.. that last sequence with Ron Moore in it.. didn't they say they found the Mitochondrial origin of mankind.. didn't they imply that it was Hera? I know Moore has said that the humans on Earth were all "Hera's Children".. my take was that her strain, that being a combination of human and cylon, was the only strain that survived and that the 'human' and 'cylon' strains failed on their own.. only decendants of Hera survived on Earth...
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Old 03-23-2009, 04:58 PM
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The ending was a bit too deus ex machina for me with the colonists deciding not to build a city, or Head Six, Head Baltar, and Head Starbuck actually being angels. Too much devine intervention as plot device for my taste. All just to make it fit into our own history.

But I would love to see what the Cylons (toasters) that were set free are like after 150,000 years.
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But I would love to see what the Cylons (toasters) that were set free are like after 150,000 years.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:10 PM
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But I would love to see what the Cylons (toasters) that were set free are like after 150,000 years.
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Old 03-23-2009, 05:39 PM
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my take was that her strain, that being a combination of human and cylon, was the only strain that survived and that the 'human' and 'cylon' strains failed on their own.. only decendants of Hera survived on Earth...
Maybe that's what the writers intended (or maybe not), but it doesn't follow from the biology (see my previous post). If Hera is Mitochrondrial Eve, all that says is that her female descendents eventually outnumbered everybody else's female descendents. It says nothing at all about the survival of other strains of humans, cylons, or Earth natives who may have interbred with her descendents.
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I watched it with a few friends and apparently i was the only one that left disappointed.

They had the set up for what could have been a truly epic space battle but then they didn't really do much with it. The fleet's plan was confusing and didn't come off as particularly well thought out and then the conclusion was abrupt and very unsatisfying. All and all, it paled in comparison to the brilliant rescue from New Capprica. Not a good way start the show.

And don't even get me started on the 2nd half, they ended up glossing or ignoring about half of the mythology they created that drew people into the show in the first place.

To be fair, everyone else I watched it with thought it was "brilliant", so to each his own I guess .
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Anyone know if its going to be re-run.
My recording was fubar...
I'd like the opportunity to make up my own mind...
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The ending was a bit too deus ex machina for me with the colonists deciding not to build a city, or Head Six, Head Baltar, and Head Starbuck actually being angels. Too much devine intervention as plot device for my taste. All just to make it fit into our own history.
Except for the fact that Baltar has been seeing Head Six since the very beginning, and she has always called herself God's messenger. And "God's Plan" has been a recurring theme throughout the series, as has the idea that there was a higher being at work. And there was even an episode (can't remember if it was Season one or two) named "The Hand of God" and it was about Baltar being guided by an invisible force.

Can't exactly claim Deus Ex Machina when it's something that's been present throughout the entire course of the show. It's not as if it only manifested at the end to achieve a specific purpose. This is something that's been building since the show started.
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Old 03-26-2009, 03:16 PM
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I didn't say "that sucked" at the end but...

No way they ditch the tech...but that ties in to the "how are the pyramids so perfect" questions we have today.

So Bill just up and ditches his son forever? No "hey son, I need a break, I'll be on the ocean at the top of this continent"...nope, just a see 'ya.

How could Lee have seen Kara if the angels only appear to each other and their "living counterparts"? AAMOF, how could anyone see her...she burned on Earth #1?

What was with the Quantum Leap cylon shooting himself in the head?

Oh well, at least they *had* a final episode.

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Old 03-26-2009, 10:00 PM
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I would have still preferred tie ins to history.
Maybe they were too predictable - but I still think it would be better than a week mitochondrial eve story line.
Heck if any scifi series was in a position to have fun and play with the possibilities it was BSG, imo.

Twelve (11? 13?) tribes of Israel tied in to the different cylon models somehow - heck they were monotheists.
Jesus Christ was just begging for one last cylon resurrection.
Find evidence of Ezekial's space ship (e.g. a Raptor).
Heck ditch Galactica on a mountain and have it discovered presently and deemed to be evidence of Noah's Ark.
Have some folks end up in South America landing their space ships ala chariots of the gods.

Oh well, it was still an enjoyable ride.


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Jesus Christ was just begging for one last cylon resurrection.
Wasn't that Kara Thrace?

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What was with the Quantum Leap cylon shooting himself in the head?



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I didn't get that one either. I jumped back to watch again. I thought maybe he didn't want to get captured.

I thought it was hella cool having the OLD style cyclons and the new ones.

I always thought BSG was in the future. If they were looking for earth and found destroyed, how did they find Earth at the end. I know some are saying Earth #1 and #2 and maybe more. So, the real earth (our earth) they found at the end was really our past, did they time warp? That was a stupid ending.

Also, the PRESENT, was Baltar and Six the Angel's or the real ones? I guess that means they don't age if real.

The Kara disappearing was just plan STUPID (cuz I just don't understand).

What ever happened to Lee's brother? I know he died but don't remember why (don't remember what they mentioned in the previous seasons).
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Lee's brother Zack was killed in a flying accident. Kara let him fly when she knew he wasn't good enough.

Baltar and Siz at the end were suppose to be the Angel versions. They talked about how "GOD" doesn't like to be called "GOD"
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I always thought BSG was in the future. If they were looking for earth and found destroyed, how did they find Earth at the end. I know some are saying Earth #1 and #2 and maybe more. So, the real earth (our earth) they found at the end was really our past, did they time warp? That was a stupid ending.
I'm not sure what you mean. The idea was that Earth #1, #2, etc., were all different places, not different times of the same place. Time travel wasn't necessary (beyond norma time dilation).


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The implication was (by that time) Kara was an angel too, just like HeadSix and HeadBaltar. But yes, I sort of thought it was stupid too.
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Part of what ruined it for me was that they showed signs early on that they were on our Earth: map of the planet, zoom out to show Africa....

Once I saw the TV with MSNBC, it wasn't really that shocking.

At least we got a view of what the final five were supposed to do. The most interesting episode I saw this season was the one where the mutiny leaves Tighe and Adama in a section of the ship with the president escaping right when they were attacking.

THAT would've been a better build up but it only lasted 1 1/2 episodes.

The battle sequences were good though in the finale. The whole 2nd half just seemed like a precursor for the new series. It didn't make much sense to me as to why they did it until I saw an iTunes link for the new series. For what was such an epic series in the first couple of seasons, the last season made me feel like I had to watch it more than wanted to watch it.
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I thought the first half of the finale was great. The second half was really slow. It was almost like watching two different shows.

I'm also not very happy with the idea that everything comes down to God. I can understand that this was a major theme in the show, but I mean, it felt like the show just ended without any of the explanations many of us thought we would get.

One thing I did find humorous is that the 12 Colonies of humans were wiped out in a manner reminiscent of the Ancients (Lantians) by the Wraith in Stargate, who then also made their way to Earth. Here's a quote from a Stagate Sg1 episode (The Pegasus Project).

MORGAN LE FAY to Daniel and Vala:
When we first abandoned Atlantis all those millennia ago, the Earth was so harsh, its people so primitive by comparison, there was no hope of living among them as Lantians or rebuilding our society. So, instead we spread out to many lands, some of us planting a few small seeds of civilization among the first tribes of man. Others making their way to the Stargate at your southern pole. Still others choosing to live the remainder of our lives in seclusion and meditation.

You can find the whole transcript here, but certainly you can see quite a bit of similarity.

I thought it that was pretty funny.
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Has anyone else seen the Caprica pilot? I watched it and was pleasantly surprised. It was a little "in-your-face" when it came to portraying current social issues, but at least it didn't get terribly preachy. I think it has the potential to explain some of the questions I had at the end of the BSG.
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Has anyone else seen the Caprica pilot? I watched it and was pleasantly surprised. It was a little "in-your-face" when it came to portraying current social issues, but at least it didn't get terribly preachy. I think it has the potential to explain some of the questions I had at the end of the BSG.
I liked it also.. I thought the end was neat when you know who figured out something was really not right.. (Didn't want to give it away)..
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