Changing infrared remote commands power on/off

[tvmaster2]

In Detailed Setup/Commands/ there are ways to change, add, delete infrared keystroke commands to things like a Hauppauge 45 button remote.

While I've figured out how to delete, change, and add a keystroke command, there's one that has me stumped: having the Hauppauge 45 Key remote and the SageTV HD300 remote send different ON/Off commands.

I've got the Hauppauge responding to a different keystroke for 'Power' (CTRL+B as opposed to CTRL+Z).

I thought this would solve the problem, but for some reason, the Hauppauge remote is still turning the HD300 on and off as well, which I'm trying to avoid. I know where the extender's properties file is, but I don't understand it's complexities. I just assumed that if you changed the keystroke command in Sage for the Hauppauge remote, the HD300 and other media extenders would stop responding. Nope

How can I change the ON/Off command the Hauppauge commands so that the Sage media extenders don't understand the new keystroke on/off command?

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Here is the mapping from the RemoteClients.properties, which is the same for ALL Media Extenders (HD300, 100, 200):

ui/rc_mappings/power=14269,14333,6077,6141,1397643564,2146466803,5900,CTRL+Z
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I don't want to change any of those, as I have four Media Extenders, so CTRL+Z stays for them. The trick is making the Hauppage remote send a power command the Media Extenders ignore



Confused (nothing new there)

[Striker:WG]

I typically work with Logitech Harmony remotes because you can change the actual signal the remote is sending.

As far as I am aware, you cannot change the signal that a Hauppauge or Sage remote sends. Its hardwired into the circuitry of the physical remote.

You can change what keystrokes and IR signals an instance of Sage will respond to though (as you've mentioned below). Of course, if you do that, you need a remote that can then send the new command to power them on.

So why exactly do you want to change this behavior?

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Striker:WG

I typically work with Logitech Harmony remotes because you can change the actual signal the remote is sending.

As far as I am aware, you cannot change the signal that a Hauppauge or Sage remote sends. Its hardwired into the circuitry of the physical remote.

You can change what keystrokes and IR signals an instance of Sage will respond to though (as you've mentioned below). Of course, if you do that, you need a remote that can then send the new command to power them on.

So why exactly do you want to change this behavior?

I was concerned this may be the case: that both remotes share the same IR on/off commands. Reason as to why? I switch my viewing back and forth between the HD300 and via the SageTV software on my Sage server, as I’m doing things ON the server simultaneously. So, getting both instances in the correct on/off sequence is necessary for my Harmony remote, so that when I leave that room and watch via another Sage Media Extender elsewhere in the house, I know those devices are shut down so I have full channel changing abilities elsewhere.

Looks like the only solution will be to take one of the two devices out of the Harmony Activities sequence and power it on or off manually when needed

In ALL the electronic, IR driven, TV devices I’ve owned in 40 years, the ONLY unit which allowed you to change your IR address between 10 different addresses is the Motorola Shaw Direct satellite box.

Why other manufacturers don’t implement this is baffling, considering how many IR units are likely in people’s arsenal.

[Striker:WG]

It's a bit of a hacky solution, but if you want to have both devices in the same IR space, you could leverage your Sage server and an IR blaster to control the HD300.

I've used LM Remote Keymap before which allows you to blast out completely different IR commands based on the currently active software window.

As I was using multiple cable boxes for Sage recording (4 of them), and as all the boxes where in the same space, I couldn't use the manufacturer remote to access their on demand features as the remote would send the signal to all boxes when I really only wanted to control one.

I solved this by taping an IR emitter to the front of two of the boxes. I setup a couple of keystrokes on my Logitech Harmony to open/close notepad or wordpad on my sage box and bring them to the forefront. This allowed LM Remote Keymap to switch its keystroke profile appropriately to either STB1 or STB2 IR blasting commands depending upon which app I had opened. Now when I was sending commands from the Harmony remote, my Sage box would receive, using LM Remote to interpret and then send the appropriate command down to the proper STB.

There was a slight delay, but it was much better than putting something in front of 3 STB IR receivers each time I wanted to watch On Demand content!

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Striker:WG

It's a bit of a hacky solution, but if you want to have both devices in the same IR space, you could leverage your Sage server and an IR blaster to control the HD300.

I've used LM Remote Keymap before which allows you to blast out completely different IR commands based on the currently active software window.

As I was using multiple cable boxes for Sage recording (4 of them), and as all the boxes where in the same space, I couldn't use the manufacturer remote to access their on demand features as the remote would send the signal to all boxes when I really only wanted to control one.

I solved this by taping an IR emitter to the front of two of the boxes. I setup a couple of keystrokes on my Logitech Harmony to open/close notepad or wordpad on my sage box and bring them to the forefront. This allowed LM Remote Keymap to switch its keystroke profile appropriately to either STB1 or STB2 IR blasting commands depending upon which app I had opened. Now when I was sending commands from the Harmony remote, my Sage box would receive, using LM Remote to interpret and then send the appropriate command down to the proper STB.

There was a slight delay, but it was much better than putting something in front of 3 STB IR receivers each time I wanted to watch On Demand content!

Thanks, but that does sound a little complex for what I'm doing. Strange thing though: the Hauppauge remote will wake up and put to sleep the HD300, but the SageTV remote doesn't do the same to the Hauppauge IR Blaster. And that's confusing. Theoretically, the Sage HD300 remote should have the same effect on the Hauppauge IR Blaster/SageTV Software