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Old 07-30-2012, 04:18 AM
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What Will You Switch To?

The latest EPG glitch got me thinking. The only thing we *know* for sure, is that there will be EPG support, definitely, until 1 Jan 2013.

*If* that is the last day (only 5 months away, folks) what are the 'current' options that you will switch to if Jeff can't 'get'er done' with Google?

Looking through all the choices, and seeing messages of 'no longer supported' here and there, I'm a little confused.

What works? (US based, Sat, OTA, and QAM, so 3 lineups for me).

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Old 07-30-2012, 07:07 AM
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I will prolly use sluggers newest creation which is an epg plugin...
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Old 07-30-2012, 07:38 AM
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If sluggers epg plugin does the trick I will also continue on with SageTV...but I am watching Ceton's progress with their upcoming WMC extenders very closely.
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Old 07-30-2012, 10:40 AM
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I will switch to Sluggers plugin for EPG.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:16 PM
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I have been using Sluggers licensed plugin ... which also gets episode data from THETVDB.
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:25 PM
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I have been using Sluggers licensed plugin ... which also gets episode data from THETVDB.
how much is it? im being lazy and don't feal like searching for it
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:28 PM
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how much is it? im being lazy and don't feal like searching for it
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Old 07-30-2012, 12:41 PM
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wow, how very noble & cool: (the bolding is mine)

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Old 07-30-2012, 01:01 PM
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wow, how very noble & cool: (the bolding is mine)
Agreed. That is pretty awesome.

Thanks for the quick links.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:32 PM
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If Sage stops supporting the EPG I'll definitely make my donation to the cancer society by switching to Slugger's plugin.
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:19 PM
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I was going to switch - to Ceton probably - before today when I learned about Jeff comments on Google+. The EPG problem notwithstanding which seems to be under control I understand I might hold out just a little bit longer before I leave and if it is only find out what it is.
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:04 PM
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I was going to switch - to Ceton probably - before today when I learned about Jeff comments on Google+. The EPG problem notwithstanding which seems to be under control I understand I might hold out just a little bit longer before I leave and if it is only find out what it is.
What comments, where?
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:34 PM
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What comments, where?
Jeff stated on Google+ that Google's new initiative (Google Fiber) is using SageTV for the TV, Music, and Photo component. I haven't seen many screenshots (only really cute advertisements) but it doesn't look like STV 7.1...

Too bad no one lives in Kansas (except of course for the 100 people that do)...

Jeff also hinted that there could be a non-fiber version in the future. Perhaps SageTV will live again...8 tuners sound pretty cool (Google Fiber does that $120/month).
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Old 07-30-2012, 08:49 PM
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The latest EPG glitch got me thinking. The only thing we *know* for sure, is that there will be EPG support, definitely, until 1 Jan 2013.

*If* that is the last day (only 5 months away, folks) what are the 'current' options that you will switch to if Jeff can't 'get'er done' with Google?
I'm pretty sure the SageTV EPG isn't going anywhere in the foreseeable future. If there is a reason to worry, that isn't it.


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Jeff stated on Google+ that Google's new initiative (Google Fiber) is using SageTV for the TV, Music, and Photo component. I haven't seen many screenshots (only really cute advertisements) but it doesn't look like STV 7.1...

Too bad no one lives in Kansas (except of course for the 100 people that do)...

Jeff also hinted that there could be a non-fiber version in the future. Perhaps SageTV will live again...8 tuners sound pretty cool (Google Fiber does that $120/month).
I gotta say this again. There is a Kansas City, Missouri (the one most of the world knows and where I live) and a Kansas City, Kansas (the city right next to Kansas City, Missouri). Both places are getting Google Fiber. Just had to mention that since it's a pet peeve of mine. And I don't like Kansas much
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:27 PM
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The latest EPG glitch got me thinking. The only thing we *know* for sure, is that there will be EPG support, definitely, until 1 Jan 2013.

*If* that is the last day (only 5 months away, folks) what are the 'current' options that you will switch to if Jeff can't 'get'er done' with Google?

Looking through all the choices, and seeing messages of 'no longer supported' here and there, I'm a little confused.

What works? (US based, Sat, OTA, and QAM, so 3 lineups for me).

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I was wondering the same thing. So I set up a test rig to try EPG importers. Sluggers plugin is the easiest to set up and gives you a choice of MS or SD (though SD is unsupported, it works great). That along with the ability to grab S/E makes it #1 on the runway. However StephaneM's XMLTV import tool also worked well. There's a bit more setting up and it requires the SagetV Webserver Plugin to pull data automatically. I don't remember if it pulled S/E, but it does work.

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17566


I'm still running the stock SageTV Zap2it for EPG for OTA, but I feel better knowing there are working alternatives available.

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Old 07-31-2012, 06:52 AM
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Thanks guys, y'all cleared up a lot. I hope there is never a need, but Slugger's looks good. I'm not too confident is MS data either, because I believe they want to kill WMC/MCE but if ShedulesDirect can be used...awesome (don't mind paying).

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Old 07-31-2012, 09:01 AM
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I was wondering the same thing. So I set up a test rig to try EPG importers. Sluggers plugin is the easiest to set up and gives you a choice of MS or SD (though SD is unsupported, it works great). That along with the ability to grab S/E makes it #1 on the runway. However StephaneM's XMLTV import tool also worked well. There's a bit more setting up and it requires the SagetV Webserver Plugin to pull data automatically. I don't remember if it pulled S/E, but it does work.

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17566


I'm still running the stock SageTV Zap2it for EPG for OTA, but I feel better knowing there are working alternatives available.

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Thanks guys, y'all cleared up a lot. I hope there is never a need, but Slugger's looks good. I'm not too confident is MS data either, because I believe they want to kill WMC/MCE but if ShedulesDirect can be used...awesome (don't mind paying).

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As alluded to earlier, I was surprised to see just how close to "usable" the Schedules Direct support was in the current code base of my mc2xml EPG plugin. It was actually 98% complete and has been for months, but then I just stopped looking at it. Given how close it was, I finished it over the weekend and am running it now on my test and production systems. I now have full Schedules Direct support with support for multiple lineups. I believe SD supports up to 4 unique lineups per user account so the plugin now supports the same thing. Of course, to use more than one lineup from your SD account requires the licensed version of the pluigin otherwise it will only pull one lineup from your SD account (or zero if you've also configured a lineup to be pulled from MS legacy server).

The code needs a little bit of polish and the wiki needs some updates to describe changes in how to setup use of Schedules Direct for pulling guide data. Once I finish that, I'll release an update. ETA: Sometime after Labour Day (i.e. late Sep/early Oct).
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Old 07-31-2012, 01:23 PM
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Thanks Slugger. Once you get it all G2G, with *noob directions* for SchedulesDirect , I'll buy a full bore license from you, even though I only need the EPG. I want to have a working backup ready to go...I never realized the terror that comes with thinking the Guide data is FUBAR

I assume SD has a page where we can pay for an acccount?

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Old 07-31-2012, 03:51 PM
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Thanks Slugger. Once you get it all G2G, with *noob directions* for SchedulesDirect , I'll buy a full bore license from you, even though I only need the EPG. I want to have a working backup ready to go...I never realized the terror that comes with thinking the Guide data is FUBAR

I assume SD has a page where we can pay for an acccount?

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Old 08-01-2012, 11:13 AM
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As alluded to earlier, I was surprised to see just how close to "usable" the Schedules Direct support was in the current code base of my mc2xml EPG plugin. It was actually 98% complete and has been for months, but then I just stopped looking at it. Given how close it was, I finished it over the weekend and am running it now on my test and production systems. I now have full Schedules Direct support with support for multiple lineups.
Is the SD data the same as SageTV's EPG? Does it include season info and the "what's on TV section?"
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