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Old 08-20-2010, 03:25 PM
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There's many viable alternatives to the HD-PVR for cable and satellite HD content.
I'm guessing typo here cause there aren't ANY alternatives for most of us.
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Old 08-20-2010, 04:59 PM
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That was a TYPO!

There's NOT many viable alternatives to the HD-PVR for cable and satellite HD content.

I wish there was a better device than the HD-PVR! It seems that you have to go to a lot of extra trouble making modification to the HD-PVR to make it limp along till the next failure. The failure which could be reset automatically by detecting the failure and cycling the power.

I'd rather pay about twice as much and have something that is reliable.

But since there isn't anything out there, I guess I'll have to do the fan mod and automatic power cycling.

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See, I wouldn't describe it as "limping along" until the next failure. Other than the lock-ups (which I have managed to reduce quite a bit by covering up the IR receiver, removing all other USB devices from the system, and upgrading to SageTV 7), the HDPVR actually screams along
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:11 PM
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The firmware is embedded in the driver. If you don't run the full exe installer, you just have to repower the HDPVR to get it to load the firmware (the installer does a reboot command to the HDPVR).

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Old 08-21-2010, 03:40 AM
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The firmware is embedded in the driver. If you don't run the full exe installer, you just have to repower the HDPVR to get it to load the firmware (the installer does a reboot command to the HDPVR).

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does it have to load the firmware every time it crashes, or do you mean the initial time after the upgrade only?
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Old 08-22-2010, 06:07 AM
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everytime it reboots the firmware version is checked and if it's out of date, it is reflashed from the image in the driver

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Old 08-22-2010, 07:27 AM
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If the theory about firmware corruption is really true, it might be better if it DID reload with each boot. Or at minimum check more than date to determine if a reload is necessary.
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If the theory about firmware corruption is really true, it might be better if it DID reload with each boot. Or at minimum check more than date to determine if a reload is necessary.
If the HDPVR is like most firmware containing devices, it is only meant to be flashed a limited number of times. Firmware is able to withstand being rewritten a few hundred times or so, and if it were to be done every time some people reboot, they would only get a year or two out of their HDPVR before it completely died.
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If the HDPVR is like most firmware containing devices, it is only meant to be flashed a limited number of times. Firmware is able to withstand being rewritten a few hundred times or so, and if it were to be done every time some people reboot, they would only get a year or two out of their HDPVR before it completely died.
As opposed to a non functioning unit the first time the firmware hoses itself... As I said - they might do a better job than just date checking the firmware.

I guess they could try to fix the root cause - what causes the firmware to malfunction. I suspect it is a weakness in noise filtering/ ESD protection in the hardware...
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As opposed to a non functioning unit the first time the firmware hoses itself... As I said - they might do a better job than just date checking the firmware.

I guess they could try to fix the root cause - what causes the firmware to malfunction. I suspect it is a weakness in noise filtering/ ESD protection in the hardware...
Yeah, they probably need to do a better job of verifying the flashing is working.
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how would one flash the firmware backwards to the version that wasn't crashing as much as this one is?

Or, is there some other software that needs to be updated/removed/altered to accomodate the new Hauppauge upgrade?
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Old 08-23-2010, 07:03 PM
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The firmware update is included as part of the driver installation package.

You may just want to reinstall the current driver so it will re-flash the firmware as well.
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The firmware update is included as part of the driver installation package.

You may just want to reinstall the current driver so it will re-flash the firmware as well.
when you say "current", you mean .07 - the one that's behaving badly that I just installed?
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Old 08-25-2010, 08:47 PM
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With regards to the 1.5.7.0 update for HD-PVR, I was running the previous version of Arcsofts software with 1.5.6.0, mainly because the newest version clashed with Hauppauge's 6.0 HD-PVR commercial.
So, is anyone running BOTH of the most recent software for the Arcsoft apps and the HD-PVR - with success?
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