Dual boot with one license?

[vikingisson]

I dual my pc with XP and Linux and wonder if one sagetv license is good for both. Of course only one would be running at a time but I wouldn't buy two licenses for the one machine.

I'm still browsing around here but I also wonder about changing the builtin content. The "Online" content for example doesn't suit my needs except for the TED videos. The News for example doesn't contain a single choice that I'm interested in. Hopefully the content choices can be modified which would then justify the license cost.

[GKusnick]

The Windows and Linux versions use different licensing technologies and the license keys are not interchangeable, i.e. a Windows key won't work on Linux and vice versa.

[vikingisson]

Firstly, thank you for the reply.
But that is a shame about the licensing. It becomes much too expensive for a small system like mine. Nice functionality for what it does but too restrictive to be useful in the long run.

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by vikingisson

Firstly, thank you for the reply.
But that is a shame about the licensing. It becomes much too expensive for a small system like mine. Nice functionality for what it does but too restrictive to be useful in the long run.

They are in the software business and most softwares do need different licenses for different computers. Go with MythTV if you want nonrestrictive licensing.

As for the online feeds, you can add your own: http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29123

[vikingisson]

I get the reasons for much of the restrictions and the need to protect revenue.
It goes farther than it needs to and that is my problem. Perhaps is the same reason it doesn't easily allow 3rd party clients. $200 plus exchange rate is high for one person. Great product for the most part but falls short on the license structure.

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by vikingisson

I get the reasons for much of the restrictions and the need to protect revenue.
It goes farther than it needs to and that is my problem. Perhaps is the same reason it doesn't easily allow 3rd party clients. $200 plus exchange rate is high for one person. Great product for the most part but falls short on the license structure.

I'm sure most SageTV licensed customers will disagree with you in terms of value for the money.

As for the extender, you can buy a Hauppauge MVP from anywhere and it will work with SageTV, although it is an SD only extender.

[GKusnick]

Just to be clear, I don't think there's any deliberate intention here to make you pay twice. Bulletproof licensing software is not Sage's area of expertise, so they bought an off-the-shelf licensing component that works on Windows, and another one that works on Linux, and it so happens that the two components use different key-generation algorithms. That's life. The number of potential users for whom this is a deal-breaker is presumably too small to be worth worrying about.

[Kryspy]

vikingisson,

Not sure where you live but the Extender at $20 US is fairly comparable to a Xbox360 or Linksys extender but does 3X the functions.

Those aformentioned cannot stream .mkv files or DVD with full menu structure.

Also, you could run the Windows version in Virtualbox in LINUX.

Kryspy

[david1234]

Originally Posted by vikingisson

Great product for the most part but falls short on the license structure.

You might not like how they license it, but I don't know of any software license that covers both a linux and a windows version! It probably wouldn't even take that much to get the windows version working in an emulator.

FWIW- I think dual booting is really out there as far as most users of sagetv are concerned (no doubt that they could dual-boot, but probably not an issue with their sage installs). I doubt you'll find much support in the user community for the complaint you've got. And to your point about 1 machine: you might think of it that way, but functionally you have 2 machines that you only run one at a time.

[wayner]

On a similar note - I am thinking of installing the win7 beta on my office PC so that it will dual boot Vista HP and Win7. Can I use the same SageTV license? (On this PC I have the full Sage version but I only now use it as a client with the -client command line paramter)

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by wayner

On a similar note - I am thinking of installing the win7 beta on my office PC so that it will dual boot Vista HP and Win7. Can I use the same SageTV license? (On this PC I have the full Sage version but I only now use it as a client with the -client command line paramter)

I've done that many times for testing purposes, installing SageTV on different versions of Windows, such as XP, Vista, 2003 server, 2008 server, 32bit and 64bit. I have the win7 beta installed but haven't test SageTV yet. But SageTV is rock solid on the hardware I have and Win2003.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

I've done that many times for testing purposes, installing SageTV on different versions of Windows, such as XP, Vista, 2003 server, 2008 server, 32bit and 64bit. I have the win7 beta installed but haven't test SageTV yet. But SageTV is rock solid on the hardware I have and Win2003.

But can you use the same license number on different versions of Windows (on the same PC) as long as only one of these OSes is running at a time?

[mayamaniac]

Lets just say that technically there's nothing preventing you from doing so. Now whether it's against the licensing agreement, that's another question.