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Plex just added official Hulu support, as well as a host of other online video sources (MTV videos, YouTube, CBS Sports, etc) in the most recent release. They also built a Python plugin architecture to make it easy for anyone to build more. I've been using it for about a day so far, and it's really great.
http://elan.plexapp.com/2009/02/21/r...ave-new-world/
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Looks like Hulu is back on Boxee......sort of.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-101...g=2547-1_3-0-5 |
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Here's hoping... |
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Why is using RSS a more acceptable method to the powers-that-be over at Hulu?
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Hulu demanded that Boxee remove the Boxee app because it changed the interface and used an unsupported viewing and manipulating of the Hulu content interface. With RSS, Boxee isn't changing anything and is at the mercy of the RSS. So Hulu won't demaind it be taken down, they would probably just muck with the RSS feeds or remove them entirely if they want to. No, it isn't entirely rational, but we're dealing with media executives here that don't even understand the whole online video thing in the first place. |
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http://blog.boxee.tv/2009/03/06/the-...of-innovation/
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Like some of the comments in the thread are saying, Boxee is trying to be a good net citizen and have a unique user agent (how browsers identify themselves to webpages) and Hulu is using that info to block Boxee's HTTP requests.
But if Hulu isn't playing nice, there's no reason that Boxee has to. Since there are no laws governing user agent stings (its more to prevent site incompatibility than anything) there's nothing stopping Boxee from just pretending to be Firefox when they request info from Hulu. Hulu either has to step it up and lock down with some serious security or just let it go. |
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Rumor has it Boxee is working again, as if it was a glitch, but I agree. Make Boxee look like IE or Firefox. This is just plain stupid, when all these companies, Boxee, PlayOn, etc... are making the effort to include commercials with the playback.
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I'm sitting here drinking my gin n' tonic with the expected clouded thoughts wondering this. Why can't we use the RSS feed from Hulu to simply add it to SageTV's online video ourselves?
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Stupid to us, but not when you own the content. Yes they are making money from Hulu, but its the contention of do I want to make cents on Hulu, or dollars selling to cable providers?
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anyone?? i would love if this was possible
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Yes, but with the realization that people DVR the shows on Cable, and fast forward through commercials, those dollars are a waste, which will eventually come to a head. Here we have no choice but to watch the commercials.
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Sounds great right? Well unfortunately I get this error when I try to actually play any of the videos: Quote:
Last edited by Brent; 03-07-2009 at 03:55 PM. |
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I may be wrong, but as far as I know Sage's MediaRSS feed works by taking RSS feeds and then scanning the resulting links for videos it knows how to play.
For instance if you give it a link to a google/youtube video page it knows how to parse the HTML, find the direct link to the video, and download it. But with the Hulu pages, it sees the page, but doesn't have a way of getting the direct link to the video to download, so it just doesn't know what to do. |
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Narflex, pretty please |
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The problem is that hulu uses their own player and the links in these RSS feeds point to a web page that starts the hulu player with the video you are trying to watch. Hence, it does not even give you a video file which makes it difficult for Sage to extract that video somehow.
Thomas |
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Last edited by lazysean; 03-25-2009 at 11:13 AM. |
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To answer my own question, yes. It's configurable, at least in SageMC which uses Nielm's RSS reader so I'd imagine it works in other STVs though I didn't try it.
I couldn't find a way to do it through the UI, but I editted the properties and changed "sagemc/rss_select_action" to "external" instead of "webtext". Then I setup an rss_reader.cmd file to run Internet Explorer on those links. Voila! Now I can add the RSS feed to any show I want (or use Hulu's other feeds - most popular shows, new shows, etc) and Sage will give me a list of available episodes. Clicking on an episode launches IE directly to that page. That's already way more usable than Hulu has been for me, add in a few EventGhost settings to be able to go full-screen, add pause and exit, and I'll be pretty well set. Of course it could be better, and I'm sure I'll tinker with it but that's not half bad. Caveats for others, of course include: wrecking the way other RSS feeds work (I don't use them otherwise), use of EventGhost or similar would be required so I imagine that limits it to PC users, and use of IE/Firefox will be limiting to those using extenders and such in the same way Netflix Watchnow is. |
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Interesting. So you're using the RSS feeder in SageMC to get Hulu feeds? What does it look like in the UI when you browse the feeds?
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