Can I stop a recording in progress?

[freedml]

Is it possible? How do I do it?

[Tiki]

If it is a Manual recording, there is an option to Cancel this Recording.

If it is a Favorite, the only way I have seen is to either remove the Favorite or mark the show as "Watched." I guess a third choice would be to setup additional manual recordings at the same time until you use up all of your tuners and get a recording conflict - then Sage should prompt you with an option to record the new manual recording instead of the favorite.

Personally, I would like to see an option to mark a "recording error" for a recording that is still in progress. That way it would stop recording that airing and look ahead in the schedule to try to schedule a future airing instead (useful if you know you have a bad recording maybe 'cause the cable was out or the ir-blaster wasn't working right).

[freedml]

The workaround forcing a recording conflict doesn't work if you have a tuner available.

I installed nielm's multi-stop stvi and that gives stop recording options.

It also helps you start a recording from the beginning which wasn't easy with the standard interface.

[killervette]

i had to go and set the program watched which stopped it right away, because cancel recording would not work on a favorite.

[GKusnick]

Just to be clear, canceling a recording means that you changed your mind and don't want to record that program anymore. Sage will therefore stop recording and delete the partial recording file.

If you want to stop recording at a certain point and keep the partial recording, there's a multi-function Stop plugin that lets you do that.

[crarbo1]

What is the name of this plug in? Is it the same as the one mentioned above? Also, does it work with SageMC or just the default STV?

Thanks,
Chuck

Originally Posted by GKusnick

Just to be clear, canceling a recording means that you changed your mind and don't want to record that program anymore. Sage will therefore stop recording and delete the partial recording file.

If you want to stop recording at a certain point and keep the partial recording, there's a multi-function Stop plugin that lets you do that.

[Brent]

It's called Multi-function Stop. This functionality is built-in to the SageMC replacement UI

[GKusnick]

If you're using SageMC, you should be posting your "how do I do X?" questions in the SageMC section of the forum, since how you do it is probably different from the stock UI.

[crarbo1]

Brent,
Thanks for the help. I may just take a look at this.

Originally Posted by Brent

It's called Multi-function Stop. This functionality is built-in to the SageMC replacement UI

GKusnick,
I'm not sure if this is directed toward my question or not, but I made no mention of what STV I used. I just asked if it was for SageMC or the default STV.
If all of the add-ins were labeled with what STV they were for, like default STV only, SageMC only, or either, that would take some guesswork out of it. Just wondering what the one he was referring to was used for, that's all.
Thanks,
Chuck

Originally Posted by GKusnick

If you're using SageMC, you should be posting your "how do I do X?" questions in the SageMC section of the forum, since how you do it is probably different from the stock UI.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by crarbo1

Brent,
Thanks for the help. I may just take a look at this.


GKusnick,
I'm not sure if this is directed toward my question or not, but I made no mention of what STV I used. I just asked if it was for SageMC or the default STV.
If all of the add-ins were labeled with what STV they were for, like default STV only, SageMC only, or either, that would take some guesswork out of it. Just wondering what the one he was referring to was used for, that's all.
Thanks,
Chuck

Originally Posted by Brent

It's called Multi-function Stop. This functionality is built-in to the SageMC replacement UI

What Brent is telling you is the Multi-function-stop is for the default STV. And the reason for that is he is telling you that the functionality of that plugin is already built-in to SageMC.

Almost all of the plugins on the download page will tell you that is is either for the Default STV or SageMC. The other way you can tell is that the default plugins all have a .STVI extension that you CAN'T import into SageMC unless you rename the extension. SageMC only accepts plugins that have an .xml extension. That's one of the reasons it was changed for SageMC. So you can't accidentally import a default STV plugin.

Gerry

[crarbo1]

Gerry,
I understood what Brent was saying. It was the other reply that I wasn't sure about. I guess what would be nice if the download section was broken up into categories based on what STV it was compatible with. I would rather not wade through the downloads just to find most are for SageMC when I want it for the default STV, or vice versa. I appreciated the explanation on how to determine it based on the file extention. I wasn't aware of that.

Thanks,
Chuck

Originally Posted by gplasky

What Brent is telling you is the Multi-function-stop is for the default STV. And the reason for that is he is telling you that the functionality of that plugin is already built-in to SageMC.

Almost all of the plugins on the download page will tell you that is is either for the Default STV or SageMC. The other way you can tell is that the default plugins all have a .STVI extension that you CAN'T import into SageMC unless you rename the extension. SageMC only accepts plugins that have an .xml extension. That's one of the reasons it was changed for SageMC. So you can't accidentally import a default STV plugin.

Gerry

[james_k_p]

In my personal experience, the multifunctionstop doesn't work that well.

When you press stop and you tell it to stop and keep the recording, my sage doesn't continue playing. It stops all video until I change the channel and then tune back.

It's a pain. What I prefer to do and what I recommend to you is when you want to stop it, go into "Record Options", then "Adjust Recording Options", and then "Adjust Stop Time", then I adjust it to the next minute of the present time which stops it correctly.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by james_k_p

In my personal experience, the multifunctionstop doesn't work that well.

When you press stop and you tell it to stop and keep the recording, my sage doesn't continue playing. It stops all video until I change the channel and then tune back.

I'm sorry, am I missing something here? It works as designed and explained on the download site and thread. You have pressed the stop button. Are you expecting some other outcome other than Sage stopping the video? The choice-"Stop recording-Keep partial file" does exactly that. If you want it to work some other way put in a request or rewrite the program. I believe the source files are available. This plugin is a great addition to the default STV and mimics what SageMC does and has built-in. If I want bits and pieces of a recording I record the whole program and use VideoRedo to edit out what I don't want.

Gerry

[freedml]

I think the problem is that when you say 'stop and save the partial recording' that the Sage Recordings list still shows it as recording even though it isn't (or will be stopping shortly, I haven't figured out which). By the time I go to Partial Recording list to delete it, it has definitely stopped recording.

A 'stop recording and delete partial recording' option would make sense. Maybe easier said than done. I don't think I'm going to want to stop a recording and then watch it very often.

[gplasky]

Originally Posted by freedml

I think the problem is that when you say 'stop and save the partial recording' that the Sage Recordings list still shows it as recording even though it isn't (or will be stopping shortly, I haven't figured out which). By the time I go to Partial Recording list to delete it, it has definitely stopped recording.

A 'stop recording and delete partial recording' option would make sense. Maybe easier said than done. I don't think I'm going to want to stop a recording and then watch it very often.

Some people do. (not me) That's why that command was created. If you don't want the partial file just press stop again. It stops the recording and returns you to the previous menu and if you don't have Sage set to keep partial files it will be deleted on it's own within seconds. The "Stop Recording-Keep Partial File" choice was created for people who just wanted to record bits and pieces of a program and have them available afterwards to watch.

Gerry

[stevech]

Sorry to raise this again, but the WAF is sagging because this problem comes up frequently...

A favorite is recording. User wants to cancel that recording and discard the partial recording. Stop. Cancel. Whatever. But keep the favorite.

There seems to be no way to do this.
Removing and recreating the favorite, if a solution, is not a viable work-around.

Seems like a simple, common requirement.

How?
(PS: We don't want to have to resort to 3rd party plug-ins for such a simple/commmon need)

[ChrisNH]

I thought I just didn't understand what I was doing.. sort of relieved to find out it wasn't just me being dumb.

This is a common issue when I see a favorite whose episode I don't want and I need to free up a tuner. Hopefully this will be addressed in a future update. We should be able to cancel or skip the recording of any particular episode of a favorite.. whether it is in the process of recording or due to be recorded.

Chris

[nielm]

Originally Posted by ChrisNH

This is a common issue when I see a favorite whose episode I don't want and I need to free up a tuner. Hopefully this will be addressed in a future update. We should be able to cancel or skip the recording of any particular episode of a favorite..

Set the show to Watched or Don't like, and it will be removed from the rec sched and never recorded again

Why do you need to 'free up a tuner'? I guess you need to watch liketv, or set a manual recording for something else, and in both of those 2 cases sage will prompt you to cancel the recording.

[ChrisNH]

Right now I have only one tuner, so if I want to watch live TV through the dvr I can't be recording. I will be fixing that in up-coming days but even with the additional tuner I will still have only one HD tuner which will make it an issue again.

Sometimes I may not want to "not record it forever", just "Not record it right now". However, in most cases the don't like feature should do what I need.

The cable company DVR, despite many flaws, did have a nice feature where you could mark something not to record and that one recording would not take place. A little symbol would appear in the program guide to let you know you had marked it to skip. A skip option in the recording menu would be a nice addition to SageTV.

Thanks,

Chris

[stevech]

Originally Posted by nielm

Set the show to Watched or Don't like, and it will be removed from the rec sched and never recorded again.

Does NOT pass the is-obvious WAF test. I tried. A week later she cannot remember that. And "don't like" to her means no longer a favorite.

Come on Sage, make it right.
We should be able to hit STOP while viewing the show being recorded and darn it, it stops recording.
and/or there needs to be a menu choice "CANCEL THIS RECORDING"