Help remapping

[chrisc983]

So here goes the quick story. I was currently running SageTV 6.3.5 on XP and everything fine as far as the program guide and channel mapping. I recently switched over to Vista Ultimate 64. I have been able to get everything else working with it but configuring the tuners. I can't remember for the life of me how I did the mapping with my previous set up.

So as an exmaple after I scan for QAM channels with my 1600 I pick up channel 2-1 which shows up as 79-2-1 for KTVUHD. In the Comcast channel line up list KTVUHD is channel 702. So my question is when I remap it what do I input in for the logical and physical channel.

I've tried a couple different things and I can view the channel on SageTV but it just wont download the program guide for the QAM channels but I think that because I am not mapping the channels properly. Thanks.

[Deacon Crusher]

I think I'm looking for similar answers.

Had to just redo my setup from scratch so tried to do everything by the numbers and get ready for my hauppauge HD PVR.

So, I have a PVR 500, an HD Homerun that gets QAM on both channels and an HD Homerun that gets ATSC on both channels.

I setup the 500 to do what it does, local analog cable. The QAM HD homerun is setup to use an adjacent cities cable lineup, Comcast San Pablo (CA) (so I can use my cities when I get the HD PVR) which seems to match mine perfectly. The ATSC HD homerun is using local digital broadcast (San Francisco, Oakland, etc.)

The 500 gets my normal channels the way my family and I are used to. The QAM has digital versions of some of those same channels and they end up on the same number (which I like and want) and adds the Hi Def channels in the 700 range (channel 2, fox is channel 702 for the HD version, etc.) So, to be more clear, on QAM I get a digital version of channel 2 (non HD fox) and a digital version of channel 702 (HD Fox.)

Here's the problem/question. The ATSC channels appear in the guide as 2-1, 4-1 etc. I'd like to change the way they appear so that they are at 702 for 2-1 and 704 for 4-1 etc. This will be much less confusing for wife (son and I could get used to it, but not sure it's worth it.) Right now I'm getting double recordings (Boston legal got recorded on both the ATSC tuner and a QAM tuner last night, oddly enough QAM is tagges as HD, but ATSC isn't, even though it is in HD.)

Seems to me this makes the most sense. All versions of the exact same channel should be at the same # and tuner merit handles which version gets used first. So, when I have the HD PVR I'd have 5 copies of channel 2 (Fox non HD.) 2 from the PVR 500, 2 via QAM and 1 from the HD PVR. Then I'd also have 5 versions of channel 702 (the HD version of Fox) 2 via QAM, 2 via ATSC and 1 from the HD PVR.

The merit order I'm planning on is.

ATSC - 2
QAM - 2
HD PVR - 1
HD 500 - 2

Is there any problem with setting things up this way and if not as I asked above, how do I remap my ATSC channels so they show up in the guide as the same channel #s as the QAM #s.

Thanks

[bialio]

You can remap the ATSC by changing the Virtual Channel in the remap screen. That is what shows up in the guide.

I take a slighly different approach - all of my FOX channels are on the same channel - 4. I've got 4 available via QAM HDHR in HD (don't have the SD versions enabled in the channel lineup), and then 2 from normal cable from the PVR-500. Merits favor the HD version, and the channel only shows up once in the Guide. To do this, you have to lie and say that the 2 signals coming in on the PVR-500 are the FOXHD feed (KDFWDT here in Dallas) - otherwise you end up with two channel 4s in the guide.

So the basic rules are :

1) Virtual Channel is the number that shows up in the guide.
2) All channels with the same call sign (ie KDFWDT) are combined into one row on the guide.*

Sometimes rule 2 trumps rule 1 - if you have the same channel (KDFWDT) assigned to different virtual channels, you will still only get one row in the guide. I'm not sure how Sage chooses which virtual channel to use in that case.

btl.

[bialio]

As far as your merit order - I'd consider only enabling the HD channels in the HD-PVR's channel lineup. That way you get the benefit of HD from it, with out wasting it on an SD channel. And I'd make it with a merit above the 500, but below the HDHR's.

HDHR - Merit 5
HD-PVR - Merit 3
PVR-500 - Merit 1

Another trick, is if you only get an HD feed of channel on the HD-PVR, remove that channel from the other channel lineups.

For instance, I get SciFi HD via dish. I have only a single instance of that channel from all my tuners - so if I have a recording on SciFi (BSG) I am guaranteed to get it in HD. If you seperate out your HD channels from your SD (702 vs 2) this isn't as big a deal.

But you gotta love the flexability Sage gives you.

btl.

[Deacon Crusher]

great explanations and tips.

Thanks Bialio.