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Old 03-02-2007, 10:12 AM
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IDE --> SATA adapter

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Anyone out there ever tried an IDE to SATA adapter? I have a 500gb IDE drive that I would like to use on my SATA/Raid controller as part of a raid 1 array.

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Old 03-02-2007, 10:30 AM
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I have been using the one that came with my Abit motherboard for the past few years, and never had a problem with it. I've actually considered getting a few more, since I have a bunch of SATA ports doing nothing (and too many IDE drives), but haven't found another brand that looks like it would be as solid as the Abit one.
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Old 03-02-2007, 10:40 AM
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I used one of these when upgrading my Father-in-law's PC so that he could continue to use his current IDE hard drive (which wasn't really that old and had plenty of capacity for him). Seemed to work just fine.
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Old 03-02-2007, 12:55 PM
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812206002

Haven't used it yet.

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Old 03-02-2007, 02:57 PM
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I am also using the adapter that came with the Abit motherboard that I just replaced. The new motherboard did not have enough IDE ports and I didn't want to have to buy a new drive. Works great.

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Old 03-02-2007, 03:48 PM
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Funny you mention this, as I just tried to put one in yesterday, but the drive is not being recognized. I bought it on ebay from HK. May be cheap, but there is not much to these. The master on my secondary IDE seems to not work (although slave does). So trying to use IDE drive on SATA. Mobo is Intel 865PERLX.

Folks who have gotten these to work, perhaps you can help me out (required settings, jumpers, etc). I plug adapter into the back of HDD, plug in SATA cable from mobo to adapter, and SATA power to adapter. then plug in power to HDD. I tried no jumper and master on HDD (some forums say master is needed). BIOS says SATA controller is enabled.

When I start it up, it asks if i want to boot from network drive [F12], and takes some time to boot. Going into BIOS shows the drive is not detected. Any ideas? Thanks
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Old 03-02-2007, 06:01 PM
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I use that on on a 200gig maxtor and it has been working good for the few months I have had it. I think a lot of the problems you hear about ide > sata adapters are from people using them on optical drives.

sabre on mine I just left the jumper in the cable select position.
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Old 03-02-2007, 09:15 PM
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think there's a significant speed penalty in using this adapter?
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Old 03-03-2007, 08:51 AM
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Thanks Oats. So no other tinkering needed?

edit-tried again on CS and all other configurations, but no luck. DO not think this will fly for me.

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Old 03-03-2007, 11:00 AM
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Hi,

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think there's a significant speed penalty in using this adapter?
What little I have been able to dig up indicates that they work pretty well with HDD's, are hit or miss with optical drives and that there is no real change in speed either way (ie pata devices don't seem to operate at sata speed).

My only concern is that my raid card may not like it. As I am starting with a simple raid 1 array I think I am going to give it a go. It would really be nice to make use of the 500gb ide drive I already own.

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Old 03-03-2007, 12:28 PM
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H As I am starting with a simple raid 1 array I think I am going to give it a go. It would really be nice to make use of the 500gb ide drive I already own.
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I was thinking of RAID 1 with a pair of 500MB drives. But as I understand, when that fills up, there's no way to enlarge the store. I am looking at a RAID 5 with 3 drives to start with. Inside a tower PC - not a NAS. The penalty is 33% of the total capacity whereas in RAID 1 it's 50%. $80 PCI bus RAID5 controller, I guess. I would expect but don't really know, that I can add a fourth drive and the controller will rebuild the system with larger capacity. Not sure.

Maybe it's smarter to just go RAID 1 and if you outgrow it, create a 2nd RAID 1. But the overhead is pretty high with this approach.
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Old 03-03-2007, 01:56 PM
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Hi,

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I was thinking of RAID 1 with a pair of 500MB drives. But as I understand, when that fills up, there's no way to enlarge the store. I am looking at a RAID 5 with 3 drives to start with. Inside a tower PC - not a NAS. The penalty is 33% of the total capacity whereas in RAID 1 it's 50%.
Yes, Raid 1 is only 50% efficient but IMO storage is cheap enough now that I can go this route and have almost no chance of loosing any recordings. I only need 1.2-1.5 TB total, so that means 6 500gb drives. Adding arrays will be no problem as I will be using a 12 port 3ware raid controller.


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$80 PCI bus RAID5 controller, I guess. I would expect but don't really know, that I can add a fourth drive and the controller will rebuild the system with larger capacity. Not sure.
Increasing the size of a Raid 5 array is known as "online capacity expansion," and I am pretty sure that there are no $80 cards that can do this without completely destroying the array (ie loosing all data) before rebuilding. This kind of thing requires a true hardware based controller, which means $300 plus depending on how many ports you want.

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thanks. Sounds like RAID 5 done right is too expensive for me.
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