Next Release?

[tmiranda]

I heard the rumor that Sage figured out how to make "morphable" code. You just go to the detailed info screen, press "42" and a dialog appears. Just type in there what you want the software to do (in English, unless you have selected Spanish as your default language in which case you must use German. This is a well-known bug) and also enter your credit card number. The system automatically charges your credit card $9.95 and once payment is confirmed the software automatically reprograms itself to do what you asked.

If you pay an extra $5.00 it stops all of the spam on all of your email accounts and reprograms your wife so she enjoys drinking beer and watching football on Sunday afternoons.

And don't forget to backup your wiz.bin before trying this out.

If this does not work try adding the following to your sage.properties file:
"sagemorph=TRUE, wifemorph=NFL, -p -rs /zaphod"

I know this is true because I read it on a blog somewhere.

[spence]

$5 for the wife thing - SIGN ME UP ASAP!!!

[walts81]

Originally Posted by matrix35

a new upcomming version? as if you can improve on perfection
ok enough with the butt kissing...

I hope the MCE blaster would be supported this time around... alot of ppl have it... would be cool to have it integrated.
also hope recording can easily be controlled like a VCR... don't get me wrong the PVR recording is great.. but sometimes a simple record implies being able to record a clip without having to save the whole programming timeslot..

This is the way Snapstream's BeyondTV used to work, but everyone kept complaining that with SageTV you could press the record button at any point in the episode and it would keep the whole thing (so they changed their functionality to match SageTV's). Wanting it to work the way you suggested is kinda like a step backwards.

- Josh

[matrix35]

Originally Posted by walts81

This is the way Snapstream's BeyondTV used to work, but everyone kept complaining that with SageTV you could press the record button at any point in the episode and it would keep the whole thing (so they changed their functionality to match SageTV's). Wanting it to work the way you suggested is kinda like a step backwards.

- Josh

I know that... but isn't it possible to give a menu when the record button is pressed? something in the lines of:
1. Record show from beginning
2. Manual Record aka VCR Record (not to be confused with Manual EPG recording)

and another press on record would give the option:
1. stop now

I believe MediaPortal has that working that way.

[cmaffia]

Tivo works the same way!
I miss the VCR mentality..
Why do I need to waste space if I only want to record 10 minutes out of a 1 hour show?? I hit record... it records... I hit stop ... it stops recording and I am left with 10 minutes

Originally Posted by matrix35

I know that... but isn't it possible to give a menu when the record button is pressed? something in the lines of:
1. Record show from beginning
2. Manual Record aka VCR Record (not to be confused with Manual EPG recording)

and another press on record would give the option:
1. stop now

I believe MediaPortal has that working that way.

[GKusnick]

Originally Posted by cmaffia

Why do I need to waste space if I only want to record 10 minutes out of a 1 hour show?? I hit record... it records... I hit stop ... it stops recording and I am left with 10 minutes

But in every other situation in Sage, Stop means stop playback. Just because I want to stop watching for a while doesn't necessarily mean I want to stop recording.

It's easy enough to cut out the parts of the recording you don't want. It's not so easy to get back the parts that didn't record because Stop didn't mean what you thought it meant. Best to err on the side of caution and record more than is strictly necessary. This is what makes computers better than dumb appliances like VCRs.

[Deadbolt]

Originally Posted by GKusnick

But in every other situation in Sage, Stop means stop playback. Just because I want to stop watching for a while doesn't necessarily mean I want to stop recording.

It's easy enough to cut out the parts of the recording you don't want. It's not so easy to get back the parts that didn't record because Stop didn't mean what you thought it meant. Best to err on the side of caution and record more than is strictly necessary. This is what makes computers better than dumb appliances like VCRs.

Maybe something like the old "quick record" on VCR's....hit QuickRecord button and SageTV sets up a manual record for whatever channel you are on for 10 mins (user setting for increment)...hit is 3 times and you have a 30 min manual record.

[mayamaniac]

you can do a timed recording, and set how many minutes you want, but it has to be at least a minute long.

[cmaffia]

My mistake... see.. it has been so long since I used a VCR

Why cant I hit record to start a recording... hit record again to stop recording like a vcr
Timed recording is not what I am referring to. Editing is not just as easy... I am talking about a true
VCR mode. Like when when I was a youngin.. and I used to watch MTV and tape only certain videos..

Originally Posted by GKusnick

But in every other situation in Sage, Stop means stop playback. Just because I want to stop watching for a while doesn't necessarily mean I want to stop recording.

It's easy enough to cut out the parts of the recording you don't want. It's not so easy to get back the parts that didn't record because Stop didn't mean what you thought it meant. Best to err on the side of caution and record more than is strictly necessary. This is what makes computers better than dumb appliances like VCRs.

[GbrNole]

what y'all want is clip capture. this could really be separate from recording i suppose?

[cmaffia]

I am not looking to clip or edit. Tivo has this feature I am talking about. I was able to just record 5 minutes of anything by just hitting record to initate the recording and the record again to stop it. It would ask me if I wanted to save this recording or delete it. This 5 minute recording would be listed along with my full length recordings. Case in point: I recorded the Grammys this year. All I wanted to record that night was Paul McCartney's performance (showing my age here :-) ) but I was forced to record the whole show. I could not set up Sage to do a timed recording because I had no idea what time exactly he would be on. I dont want to go and edit it with Video Redo or similar products. It is time consuming and requires me to do this on another computer to do this simple function. It would be nice to implement this feature in future Sage releases. Narflex, if you're reading, what do you think? :-)

Originally Posted by GbrNole

what y'all want is clip capture. this could really be separate from recording i suppose?

[jlabrue]

Originally Posted by cmaffia

I am not looking to clip or edit. Tivo has this feature I am talking about. I was able to just record 5 minutes of anything by just hitting record to initate the recording and the record again to stop it. It would ask me if I wanted to save this recording or delete it. This 5 minute recording would be listed along with my full length recordings. Case in point: I recorded the Grammys this year. All I wanted to record that night was Paul McCartney's performance (showing my age here :-) ) but I was forced to record the whole show. I could not set up Sage to do a timed recording because I had no idea what time exactly he would be on. I dont want to go and edit it with Video Redo or similar products. It is time consuming and requires me to do this on another computer to do this simple function. It would be nice to implement this feature in future Sage releases. Narflex, if you're reading, what do you think? :-)

cmaffia,

As a former Tivo addict as well I know exactly what your talking about. That is probably one of the only major pieces of functionality that I miss from my Tivo. If I was watching a segment and wanted to record something hit record, when done hit record again and there it was. I still find myself trying to do it with Sage until I remember it won't and I've been a Sage user for 1 1/2 years now

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by jlabrue

cmaffia,

As a former Tivo addict as well I know exactly what your talking about. That is probably one of the only major pieces of functionality that I miss from my Tivo. If I was watching a segment and wanted to record something hit record, when done hit record again and there it was. I still find myself trying to do it with Sage until I remember it won't and I've been a Sage user for 1 1/2 years now

If I'm understanding what you want correctly then SageMC has had it since Version 6.7. It should be possible to copy the code as an import to the default STV. Would take a few additions to get it to only record from the first press of the Record command but that shouldn't be too hard either. Guess I have to retract this statement not easy to delete the prior video before resuming recording but can at least stop the recording early with the SageMC code.

[mayamaniac]

This "just record and stop" missing feature has been requested before in many other threads, it also coincides with the many "why I can't just stop a fav/manual recording" complaints. I'm sure SageTV is aware of it. Now whether they did something about it for next release, that's a different story.

[alon24]

I hae a suggestion:

If a recording is back to back, and it the dirst has like a few mintues more to record, and the other recording wants to take over (because you added more time to the first recording, to mek sure the network did not screw upo), it should record the overlapping few minutes and add them to both recordings, this way you will have what you need in both recordings, and not have a situationwhere you missed the ending, which is magically on the other recording you have to hunt down now....

In Israel YES MAX - the satelite's DVR does this, and would love to see it in sage too.

[ke6guj]

oh yah, overlapping padding on back-to-back same-channel recordings would be nice, and has been requested in the past.

[dflachbart]

Originally Posted by BobPhoenix

Guess I have to retract this statement not easy to delete the prior video before resuming recording but can at least stop the recording early with the SageMC code.

Hi Bob,

funny, after reading the prior posts I started to implement this functionality in SageMC, but hit the same road block ...

Dirk

[briands]

Originally Posted by alon24

I hae a suggestion:

If a recording is back to back, and it the dirst has like a few mintues more to record, and the other recording wants to take over (because you added more time to the first recording, to mek sure the network did not screw upo), it should record the overlapping few minutes and add them to both recordings, this way you will have what you need in both recordings, and not have a situationwhere you missed the ending, which is magically on the other recording you have to hunt down now....

In Israel YES MAX - the satelite's DVR does this, and would love to see it in sage too.

I'm pretty sure this will happen if you leave the "remove padding on back to back" disabled. It does however require twice as many tuners to handle it. I think you are suggesting a more elegant solution where the overlap would be written simultaniously to both files. I agree that this would be a nice solution.

[cenwesi]

Damnit, it is Friday! Where is the new build

[blade]

Originally Posted by alon24

I hae a suggestion:

If a recording is back to back, and it the dirst has like a few mintues more to record, and the other recording wants to take over (because you added more time to the first recording, to mek sure the network did not screw upo), it should record the overlapping few minutes and add them to both recordings, this way you will have what you need in both recordings, and not have a situationwhere you missed the ending, which is magically on the other recording you have to hunt down now....

In Israel YES MAX - the satelite's DVR does this, and would love to see it in sage too.

Is this even possible or is it a hardware limitation? The capture cards encode the show into mpeg2, how could a single encoder be encoding 2 shows at once for the period of time the shows overlap?