Switching to Scedules Direct

[NetworkGuy]

Hi,

I upgraded to V9 about 3 weeks ago on my test system and production server. But, I only switched the test system to Schedules Direct.

I noticed today that the test system had not scheduled any new recordings. It turns out it was because of how I did the switch to SD. Instead of removing all of the tuners and re-adding them, I simply went into a tuner and changed the EPG channel lineup to use SD. That casued the problem.

When I removed all of the tuners and re-added them with SD, it started scheduling new shows immediately.

I wanted to document this in case someone else tried just changing the EPG lineup.

[w4rh4wk]

interesting, i didnt delete the tuners either....I just changed the EPG channel lineup to use Schedules Direct.... I'll report back if the same thing happens to me.

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by NetworkGuy

Hi,

I upgraded to V9 about 3 weeks ago on my test system and production server. But, I only switched the test system to Schedules Direct.

I noticed today that the test system had not scheduled any new recordings. It turns out it was because of how I did the switch to SD. Instead of removing all of the tuners and re-adding them, I simply went into a tuner and changed the EPG channel lineup to use SD. That casued the problem.

When I removed all of the tuners and re-added them with SD, it started scheduling new shows immediately.

I wanted to document this in case someone else tried just changing the EPG lineup.

I might have a little insight into what actually happened here. Schedules Direct likely replaced all of your airings with copies from Schedules Direct. Those all ended up replacing similar airings from the old guide data. SageTV was still scheduling using the old airings which didn't exist and as a result recorded nothing. SageTV is smart enough to recognize when an airing is replaced with a newer version of the same airing and it should have swapped them but for some reason that didn't happen.

Your approach should have worked fine without the added step of removing and re-adding the tuners. You don't mention it, so I'm wondering if you tried restarting SageTV before you re-added the tuners. Restarting and still having the scheduling problem would have made my assumption incorrect.

[w4rh4wk]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

so I'm wondering if you tried restarting SageTV before you re-added the tuners. Restarting and still having the scheduling problem would have made my assumption incorrect.

I'll let you know if restarting Sage works for me if i have the same issue

[NetworkGuy]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

Your approach should have worked fine without the added step of removing and re-adding the tuners. You don't mention it, so I'm wondering if you tried restarting SageTV before you re-added the tuners. Restarting and still having the scheduling problem would have made my assumption incorrect.

I did not restart SageTV before re-adding the tuners. I just removed them all and then started adding them. As soon as I added the first one, I saw scheduling conflicts because there were not enough tuners. As I added the addition tuners, the conflicts disappeared.

[EnterNoEscape]

Originally Posted by NetworkGuy

I did not restart SageTV before re-adding the tuners. I just removed them all and then started adding them. As soon as I added the first one, I saw scheduling conflicts because there were not enough tuners. As I added the addition tuners, the conflicts disappeared.

That's very interesting. That feels like an issue somewhere between Carny and the Scheduler.

[NetworkGuy]

I have Intelligent Recordings turned off in V9.

limited_carny_init=true

Think that has anything to do with it?

[EnterNoEscape]

That only skips intelligent recordings at startup. They do eventually become available, just a lot more slowly. That should have nothing to do with the issue you're describing.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by w4rh4wk

interesting, i didnt delete the tuners either....I just changed the EPG channel lineup to use Schedules Direct.... I'll report back if the same thing happens to me.

That's what I did a few weeks ago and everything seems fine. Transition was pretty seamless.

[panteragstk]

I'll be doing the same soon. Updating the guide source without removing tuners that is.

[gcrow]

I switched to Schedules Direct a couple of weeks ago and everything was working fine for about a week. Then it stopped downloading any of my HD programs. I renamed all the channels with SD names and the programs loaded. I cannot, however, get the TCM schedule to load - either the SD or HD version. A couple of other channels are the same way, but I only care about TCM.

My configuration is Win 10, OpenDCT, SageTV 9. Any ideas?

Thanks.