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Accessing sage from outside home network
I used to have everything set up to be able to use the web interface from outside my home network, but let it all go when the free dyndns service went away. I'm playing with it now just using my ip address from whatismyip and it is working fine, thought I would just see how it goes for now since i have no idea how often my ISP changes my address.
Specifically, I have the mobile web site and the Android app workming now, but concerned about security, which I'm not too clear on. Should be be using SSL or https, or is my router still doing that job? EDIT: I should add that my AmpedWireless router only wants TZO or dyndns, and this is not worth investing in a new one at the moment. Unless someone knows how I can jury-rig another free dns service to work with my router.
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If you leave your Sage Server PC running 24/7, you could use one of the other free DNS services without changing anything in your router. I use one called duckdns.org. You can install a service or run a script on your server PC to keep the address updated.
They have instructions for configuration with many different operating systems and routers: http://www.duckdns.org/install.jsp
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Some of the router makes, Asus is an example, provide a free Dyndns service.
If you want I can post some code that logs your external IP address to a file every day (or every hour even). This lets you see how often your ISP changes your IP. For me it is almost never unless I change my router.
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Who's your ISP? I have Rogers and you almost don't need this as your DNS rarely changes, unless you change your modem or router.
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I have rogers as well... but remembering my IP is harder than just remembering my hostname
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True - but then you can hardcode it in a hosts file at computers you use away from home - assuming that you are allowed to edit a hosts file. Or bookmark it once and you are set.
But I agree with you which is why I actually pay $15/yr or whatever for DynDNS service.
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Is the SageTV locator service still running? Where you just enter the locator ID in placeshifter and it figures that all out for you?
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Here is a bit of vbs code that logs your external IP to a file called ip.txt - I use a file on my OneDrive account so that it is accessible from anywhere. It scrapes a web page called http://checkip.dyndns.org. I run the script every 30 minutes using Windows' Task Scheduler. Save the code before as something like iplog.vbs and then run that from Task Scheduler on manually.
My IP last changed on Sep 14, 2014 around 10 am. If you wanted it to be a bit smarter you could have it email you every time there was a change so that you were alerted to that fact. Code:
Const ForReading = 1 Const ForAppending = 8 Dim ipLog, objHTTP, strHTML, varStart Dim varStop, strIP, strCurrIP, objFSO Dim txtFile, strLine, objShell ' Log for tracking external IP addresses ipLog = "C:\Users\wayne\SkyDrive\Ping Test\IP.txt" ' Get current external IP address from web Set objHTTP = CreateObject("MSXML2.XMLHTTP") Call objHTTP.Open("GET", "http://checkip.dyndns.org", False) objHTTP.Send() strHTML = objHTTP.ResponseText ' Extarct IP from HTML if HTML was recieved If strHTML <> "" Then varStart = InStr(1, strHTML, "Current IP Address:", vbTextCompare) + 19 If varStart Then varStop = InStr(varStart, strHTML, "</body>", vbTextCompare) If varStart And varStop Then strIP = Mid(strHTML, varStart, varStop - varStart) Else strIP = "Unavailable" End If ' Remove preceeding or trailing spaces strCurrIP = Trim(strIP) ' Check for log file and last log entry Set objFSO = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject") If Not (objFSO.FileExists(ipLog)) Then ' If log file doesn't exist create it Set txtFile = objFSO.CreateTextFile(ipLog, True) End If ' If changed log to file and display IP Set txtFile = objFSO.OpenTextFile(ipLog, ForAppending) txtFile.Write(Date+Time) txtFile.Write(" External IP is: "+strCurrIP& vbCrLf) txtFile.Close ' Clear variables Set ipLog = Nothing Set objHTTP = Nothing Set strHTML = Nothing Set varStart = Nothing Set varStop = Nothing Set strIP = Nothing Set strCurrIP = Nothing Set objFSO = Nothing Set txtFile = Nothing Set strLine = Nothing Set objShell = Nothing
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Yes it's still working, and works great. The limitation is that it's only really good for placeshifter, and not for the web UI. (to clarify, there are ways to make it work with other web services, but the url is a lot more complicated than just using a $15/year dyndns address.)
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