Android TV Device Comparisons

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by bialio

left_ctr is unmapped. right_ctr is unmapped. esc is unmapped. home is unmapped. etc.

That is interesting... I can see ESC being unmapped, since I don't handle that (yet, but I should). But, "home" is definately mapped.

And the fact that you are seeing left_ctrl is unmapped, means that Flirc appears to be sending the modifier (ie, ctrl) as a keypress, which is odd.

So, I hooked up the flirc and mapped a ctrl+shift+s (pause/play) to a remote, and then logged what the mini-client was getting. This looks like a bug in the FLIRC keyboard handling.

Flirc sends, CTRL down, and Shift Down, then S, followed by CTRL up, Shift Up, and S up. But "S" doesn't have any meta state, so it just sends 's' to sagetv.

What I would expect is that the 'S" at least would return true when 'isShiftPressed()' or 'isCtrlPressed()' is called, but because of how flirc is sending this, all meta information is lost.

This is likely fixable in the keylistener... just not an easy fix.

[bialio]

Maybe it is time to dust off my Android chops. I've been in iOS land (for my day job)

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by stuckless

That is interesting... I can see ESC being unmapped, since I don't handle that (yet, but I should). But, "home" is definately mapped.

And the fact that you are seeing left_ctrl is unmapped, means that Flirc appears to be sending the modifier (ie, ctrl) as a keypress, which is odd.

So, I hooked up the flirc and mapped a ctrl+shift+s (pause/play) to a remote, and then logged what the mini-client was getting. This looks like a bug in the FLIRC keyboard handling.

Flirc sends, CTRL down, and Shift Down, then S, followed by CTRL up, Shift Up, and S up. But "S" doesn't have any meta state, so it just sends 's' to sagetv.

What I would expect is that the 'S" at least would return true when 'isShiftPressed()' or 'isCtrlPressed()' is called, but because of how flirc is sending this, all meta information is lost.

This is likely fixable in the keylistener... just not an easy fix.

So, since I had the FLIRC setup... I decided to do some more testing... i think I have fix for this... it's likely not 100% covered, but, I was able to get things like play and pause to work by sending flirc ctrl+shift+s and ctrl+shift+d, etc.

I'll try to push out an update to the MiniClient today with these changes.

[stuckless]

FYI... I've updated a new version on Google Play, and better handled the way the FLIRC is sending meta keys... This is likely not perfect, but should hopefully handle most cases.

[bialio]

Thanks Sean! That fixed all of them except home, which for some reason reports 'UNMAPPED KEY: move_home'

I'll find something else to map to home though.

btl.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by bialio

Thanks Sean! That fixed all of them except home, which for some reason reports 'UNMAPPED KEY: move_home'

I'll find something else to map to home though.

btl.

I can add a mapping "move_home" as well. I didn't catch it before, because you referenced "home" and had that mapped

It's pretty easy to do the mapping, so I should have a new update in google play in a few minutes.

[uberpixel]

So I'm up and running with the FLIRC and Mi Box with my Harmony One+ but I'm missing out on some key remote commands. I'm using the Kodi settings but it would appear that "Guide" isn't supported. I'm also unable to do "big skips".

Would it work to use the MCE Remote setup instead? That has a "Guide" button and more closely matches the commands on the HD300 remote.

-uberpixel

[bialio]

Here's what I did - it is working well so far.

Shield + FLIRC + Harmony + SageTV

1) Took the FLIRC to my computer and plugged it in. Launched the FLIRC app.
2) In FLIRC app selected the 'Full Keyboard' profile.
3) In FLIRC app hit the keys needed for Sage command (i.e. CTRL+X for Guide)
4) Took a HD300 remote control and hit the guide button.
5) Do steps 3 and 4 again for that code!!!!

At this point FLIRC is programmed to send CTRL+X when it gets either of the Guide IR events from a Sage HD300 remote control.

So I repeated this for all the keyboard commands I care about - Home, Skips, Stop, etc. There are lists of the keyboard shortcuts here in the forums.

Once all that was done, I plugged the FLIRC back into Shield. Then in the Harmony setup, I created a SageTV HD300 device and added it to the Shield TV activity. And finally in the Harmony remote control setup I mapped the buttons that I care about to the SageTV commands.

To put it in other words, Harmony thinks there's an HD300 and it sends it commands every now and then. The FLIRC understands the HD300 commands and sends the appropriate keypress into the Android TV.

btl.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by bialio

Here's what I did - it is working well so far.

Shield + FLIRC + Harmony + SageTV

1) Took the FLIRC to my computer and plugged it in. Launched the FLIRC app.
2) In FLIRC app selected the 'Full Keyboard' profile.
3) In FLIRC app hit the keys needed for Sage command (i.e. CTRL+X for Guide)
4) Took a HD300 remote control and hit the guide button.
5) Do steps 3 and 4 again for that code!!!!

At this point FLIRC is programmed to send CTRL+X when it gets either of the Guide IR events from a Sage HD300 remote control.

So I repeated this for all the keyboard commands I care about - Home, Skips, Stop, etc. There are lists of the keyboard shortcuts here in the forums.

Once all that was done, I plugged the FLIRC back into Shield. Then in the Harmony setup, I created a SageTV HD300 device and added it to the Shield TV activity. And finally in the Harmony remote control setup I mapped the buttons that I care about to the SageTV commands.

To put it in other words, Harmony thinks there's an HD300 and it sends it commands every now and then. The FLIRC understands the HD300 commands and sends the appropriate keypress into the Android TV.

btl.

If you share you Flirc Setup, we can host it online and then people can use that (pre-programmed) and set the logitech remote to HD300 mode and they don't have to do the mapping themselves.

[uberpixel]

Originally Posted by stuckless

If you share you Flirc Setup, we can host it online and then people can use that (pre-programmed) and set the logitech remote to HD300 mode and they don't have to do the mapping themselves.

Ooh. That would be great! Anything to simplify the process and ease adoption would be awesome.

-uberpixel

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by bialio

Here's what I did - it is working well so far.

Shield + FLIRC + Harmony + SageTV

1) Took the FLIRC to my computer and plugged it in. Launched the FLIRC app.
2) In FLIRC app selected the 'Full Keyboard' profile.
3) In FLIRC app hit the keys needed for Sage command (i.e. CTRL+X for Guide)
4) Took a HD300 remote control and hit the guide button.
5) Do steps 3 and 4 again for that code!!!!

At this point FLIRC is programmed to send CTRL+X when it gets either of the Guide IR events from a Sage HD300 remote control.

So I repeated this for all the keyboard commands I care about - Home, Skips, Stop, etc. There are lists of the keyboard shortcuts here in the forums.

Once all that was done, I plugged the FLIRC back into Shield. Then in the Harmony setup, I created a SageTV HD300 device and added it to the Shield TV activity. And finally in the Harmony remote control setup I mapped the buttons that I care about to the SageTV commands.

To put it in other words, Harmony thinks there's an HD300 and it sends it commands every now and then. The FLIRC understands the HD300 commands and sends the appropriate keypress into the Android TV.

btl.

In using all the sage keyboard commands, are you missing control in other android apps? I'm wondering about thngs like play/pause and such that might be sending strange keystrokes to other programs that they don't know how to handle.

[bialio]

I am only remapping the items that Nvidia's Harmony profile is missing and/or doesn't work. So I map all the numbers - I am guessing they will work everywhere since it's just straight digits.

Then I map the Guide, Info, DVR, Channel Up, Channel Down, Stop, and Record buttons on the Harmony remote to Sage Guide, Sage Info, Sage Home, Sage Channel Up, Sage Channel Dwn, Sage Stop, and Sage Record respectively.

For Options I use the long press on select (which is baked into the android mini-client).

So all of the normal buttons that Android apps are used to seeing are still coming through natively.

btl.

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

In using all the sage keyboard commands, are you missing control in other android apps? I'm wondering about thngs like play/pause and such that might be sending strange keystrokes to other programs that they don't know how to handle.

I think Sean fixed that issue for the shield at least. Double tapping the touch volume control on the shield remote would start playing whatever was in the now playing box from the main Android TV screen. Now it pauses/plays sage without issue.

That is, unless the pause/play command the flirc is sending is somehow different.

[NetworkGuy]

Originally Posted by stuckless

I was in the States yesterday, and I bought a Mi Box, so I'll do some testing on that box, this weekend (hopefully).

I was not able to figure out the keyboard combination to power on/off the Mi Box. If you do figure it out, please let me know.

Thanks,

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by NetworkGuy

I was not able to figure out the keyboard combination to power on/off the Mi Box. If you do figure it out, please let me know.

Thanks,

I'm not sure I understand... I don't have a keyboard, I'll likely be using the remote that ships with it. I know for the shield, I just exit SageTV when I'm done (long press then use the "exit" icon to kill the app), and then shield will go into "sleep" after a few minutes of the tv being off and no apps running.

[Fuzzy]

Yeah, I've yet to find a reason to 'power off' the mi box.

[Flips]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yeah, I've yet to find a reason to 'power off' the mi box.

If you have a TV with EDID over HDMI then the power button on the remote will also power off your TV. (from what I have read) I can't try it as the TV its attached to is an old plasma.

flips

[uberpixel]

Originally Posted by Korny

I bought a Mi box last week and used wireless connection at first. I have not updated to wireless AC due to my house being hardwired with cat 6. With wireless n 300 Sage TV was very laggy and playback was poor, even with an excellent connection being reported by both the access point and the Mi box. I bought https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and it works with the Mi Box and Sage TV I'd working great.

Any tricks to get the USB to LAN adapter working? I just tried one of these and I can't seem to get a network connection. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IJ..._t2_B00LLUEJFU

I tested the adapter on a PC and confirmed that it was working. It installed a realtek driver on the PC when it was plugged in. Could this be a driver issue on the Mi Box?

-uberpixel

[NetworkGuy]

Originally Posted by uberpixel

Any tricks to get the USB to LAN adapter working? I just tried one of these and I can't seem to get a network connection. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IJ..._t2_B00LLUEJFU

I tested the adapter on a PC and confirmed that it was working. It installed a realtek driver on the PC when it was plugged in. Could this be a driver issue on the Mi Box?

-uberpixel

Did you check the network connections setting in the Android Box?

[NetworkGuy]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Yeah, I've yet to find a reason to 'power off' the mi box.

It is in a room that only get used on weekends, so there is not need to leave it on all week.