does Sage log past recordings?

[tvmaster2]

Lost one of my recording drives - luckily backed it up three weeks ago, but have likely lost all recordings since then.
I looked thru the manual and couldn't find anything about recordings being logged. Does Sage do that, somewhere, and save the info?
At least then I can see what I lost off that drive and re-record it
thanks

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

Lost one of my recording drives - luckily backed it up three weeks ago, but have likely lost all recordings since then.
I looked thru the manual and couldn't find anything about recordings being logged. Does Sage do that, somewhere, and save the info?
At least then I can see what I lost off that drive and re-record it
thanks

You can do a search in the webserver for recorded TV by filename.

for example my recording are in N:\SAGEN

I do a search using *SAGEN* in the Filename: field. That gives me recordings in N:\SAGEN

This will only work if the recordings are still in the SAGE DB.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

You can do a search in the webserver for recorded TV by filename.

for example my recording are in N:\SAGEN

I do a search using *SAGEN* in the Filename: field. That gives me recordings in N:\SAGEN

This will only work if the recordings are still in the SAGE DB.

that's the problem, I'm trying to find out what was recorded that WOULDN'T be on the backup drive. The only place that info would be would be in a log somewhere.
If I use this method, it finds everything that I had backed up, but not the material I hadn't. So, for example, between June 14 and July 10, I didn't do a backup...all recordings within those dates can't be found

[Slugger]

No, the info isn't in a log anywhere. That's why I call a scheduled task every day that dumps all my recordings to an xml file every morning. If my media drive goes poof then I have the xml file to tell me what was on the drive and then I can restore/re-record/etc. what I need to, if there was anything worth restoring.

I just hit this url every morning at 4am and save the result to a file on my server's OS drive (requires webui plugin be installed):

http://localhost:8080/sage/Recordings?xml=yes

I used to run a NAS with RAID10 and all that, then I shutdown the NAS, sold the hardware, reduced my hydro bill, and started creating this xml file daily. If the drive goes boom I figure at most there's a handful of recordings I may want to get back either by ensuring they re-record or by purchasing an episode or two if needed, but most of the recordings I really wouldn't care about. And when I decided that, I decided to make this procedure my (tv) media backup solution. This solution is much cheaper to operate.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Slugger

No, the info isn't in a log anywhere. That's why I call a scheduled task every day that dumps all my recordings to an xml file every morning. If my media drive goes poof then I have the xml file to tell me what was on the drive and then I can restore/re-record/etc. what I need to, if there was anything worth restoring.

I just hit this url every morning at 4am and save the result to a file on my server's OS drive (requires webui plugin be installed):

http://localhost:8080/sage/Recordings?xml=yes

I used to run a NAS with RAID10 and all that, then I shutdown the NAS, sold the hardware, reduced my hydro bill, and started creating this xml file daily. If the drive goes boom I figure at most there's a handful of recordings I may want to get back either by ensuring they re-record or by purchasing an episode or two if needed, but most of the recordings I really wouldn't care about. And when I decided that, I decided to make this procedure my (tv) media backup solution. This solution is much cheaper to operate.

great idea, thanks. when you say you "hit" that URL at 4am, is that done manually, or is it automatic somehow? And it catalogs every recording, regardless of date or if you have multiple drives (I have one drive for each of two, separate tuners)

[stuckless]

If you have Phoenix (or BMT) installed to fetch fanart/metada, then you can possibly find that information in the SAGE_HOME/logs/pheonix-metadata.log

Just look for lines with "AUTO; RECORDING;" and it will give the filename and the date it was recorded.

2015-07-08 23:00:04,015 - AUTO; RECORDING; /var/media/tv/Extant-Morphoses-13625269-0.ts; Extant; 13675070
2015-07-09 23:00:03,472 - AUTO; RECORDING; /var/media/tv/Hannibal-Dolce-13633141-0.ts; Hannibal; 13679404
2015-07-10 02:00:03,297 - AUTO; RECORDING; /var/media/tv/UndertheDome-TheKinship-13634554-0.ts; Under the Dome; 13679713

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

great idea, thanks. when you say you "hit" that URL at 4am, is that done manually, or is it automatic somehow? And it catalogs every recording, regardless of date or if you have multiple drives (I have one drive for each of two, separate tuners)

I downloaded wget and installed it on my server then call wget to hit the url every morning. In my Windows scheduled task, this is what the "action" of the task looks like:

Program: "C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\wget.exe"
Arguments: --http-user sage --http-password frey -O C:\Users\sagetv\Desktop\sagetv_recs.xml http://localhost:8080/sage/Recordings?xml=yes

Just download wget for windows (or any such command line tool; curl is popular one, but not sure if there's a windows port of it) and then use it to "hit" the url. It will catalog everything that Sage considers a tv recording (but will not catalog imported videos, DVDs, BRs, music, etc.). You could add more tasks to catalog more media if you wanted/needed.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by stuckless

If you have Phoenix (or BMT) installed to fetch fanart/metada, then you can possibly find that information in the SAGE_HOME/logs/pheonix-metadata.log

Just look for lines with "AUTO; RECORDING;" and it will give the filename and the date it was recorded.

2015-07-08 23:00:04,015 - AUTO; RECORDING; /var/media/tv/Extant-Morphoses-13625269-0.ts; Extant; 13675070
2015-07-09 23:00:03,472 - AUTO; RECORDING; /var/media/tv/Hannibal-Dolce-13633141-0.ts; Hannibal; 13679404
2015-07-10 02:00:03,297 - AUTO; RECORDING; /var/media/tv/UndertheDome-TheKinship-13634554-0.ts; Under the Dome; 13679713

great idea - but...that file got trashed when the drive died - the only thing in that file now is from two days ago, when I put a replacement drive in

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Slugger

I downloaded wget and installed it on my server then call wget to hit the url every morning. In my Windows scheduled task, this is what the "action" of the task looks like:

Program: "C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\wget.exe"
Arguments: --http-user sage --http-password frey -O C:\Users\sagetv\Desktop\sagetv_recs.xml http://localhost:8080/sage/Recordings?xml=yes

Just download wget for windows (or any such command line tool; curl is popular one, but not sure if there's a windows port of it) and then use it to "hit" the url. It will catalog everything that Sage considers a tv recording (but will not catalog imported videos, DVDs, BRs, music, etc.). You could add more tasks to catalog more media if you wanted/needed.

Thanks - that's a little over my pay grade, but give me a few days and let me see if I can get that to work

hey, got it to work afterall - thanks for that.

[tmiranda]

I'll chime in. Everything ever recorded is stored in the wiz.bin. It should be possible to write a plugin that gets the information from the wiz.bin and prints it.

[Denali]

When I lost a drive I used the Web Interface Search for Recorded TV Files and inserted the path for the failed drive, i.e. f:\sagetv\*.* Change Results per Page to ALL and print resulting web page with all recordings listed from failed drive.

[nyplayer]

This is what I use to see what files are on my drives. It creates a text file with what ever you specify with all the files and directories on your drive and also appends current date and time. In the example below I check my q drive. You can set it up to run anytime you want.

Qfiles.bat

if not exist c:\temp\ md c:\temp\
cd Q:\
Q:
dir Q:\ /s *.* /b>c:\temp\QDrivefiles_%date:~-4,4%%date:~-10,2%%date:~-7,2%_%time:~0,2%%time:~3,2%%time:~6,2%.txt

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I'll chime in. Everything ever recorded is stored in the wiz.bin. It should be possible to write a plugin that gets the information from the wiz.bin and prints it.

hmmm...that sounds like a pretty logical idea, either prints or saves as an xml, html, whatever file...

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Denali

When I lost a drive I used the Web Interface Search for Recorded TV Files and inserted the path for the failed drive, i.e. f:\sagetv\*.* Change Results per Page to ALL and print resulting web page with all recordings listed from failed drive.

whenever I try to do this I get 0 recordings.
Do you mean to search in the Filename window, as opposed to search string?

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

whenever I try to do this I get 0 recordings.
any idea what I'm doing wrong?

my drive letter is H, and there is only one dir on it, 'Colossus Recordings'

Did you use UNC paths or the drive letter? when you setup sage recordings directory? If you used UNC paths you need to supply the shared name.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

Did you use UNC paths or the drive letter? when you setup sage recordings directory? If you used UNC paths you need to supply the shared name.

Drive letter. Got it to work using the 'filename' field.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I'll chime in. Everything ever recorded is stored in the wiz.bin. It should be possible to write a plugin that gets the information from the wiz.bin and prints it.

That an airing was recorded is stored in the wiz.bin is correct, however, it does not keep the mediafile objects once the file is seen as gone, which means it would not show the file location, meaning no way to know if a given airing was on the lost drive.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by Slugger

I downloaded wget and installed it on my server then call wget to hit the url every morning. In my Windows scheduled task, this is what the "action" of the task looks like:

Program: "C:\Program Files (x86)\GnuWin32\bin\wget.exe"
Arguments: --http-user sage --http-password frey -O C:\Users\sagetv\Desktop\sagetv_recs.xml http://localhost:8080/sage/Recordings?xml=yes

Just download wget for windows (or any such command line tool; curl is popular one, but not sure if there's a windows port of it) and then use it to "hit" the url. It will catalog everything that Sage considers a tv recording (but will not catalog imported videos, DVDs, BRs, music, etc.). You could add more tasks to catalog more media if you wanted/needed.

Hi. This has been working great, however - if one drive died (I have two tuners, one satellite and one cable box, each recording to an independent drive), and I didn't get a replacement drive in before the next, scheduled update, I'd effectively lose all the recording info I was trying to save, as Sage wouldn't be able to find if for wget to catalog since the drive was dead.
Is there a way to run a scheduled task for EACH tuner/drive? That way, wouldn't the last known info for a dead drive be retained, or would the wget file be re-written blank if it couldn't find a drive?

[Slugger]

Yes, but would require some custom scripting. Create some custom groovy scripts that dump the data you want and install that groovy script in the web ui. Then instead of hitting the current url, just hit the custom script instead. Using the current url, the file would be written blank on lost drives (since, presumably, Sage would have 0 recordings found and replace the file with 0 recordings in the output).

You would need a custom script to handle these situations as desired.

[Slugger]

Actually, Sage doesn't drop media file objects if the drive where it's supposed to be isn't found. So in the case of a failed local disk or missing/unmounted network disk, Sage should still present the media file objects when queried. Sage drops the media file object if the file is missing, but the disk hosting the file exists and is accessible. (This is all from memory, but pretty sure that's right.)

So what does that mean? It should mean you don't need change anything. The current url will dump media files on a failed/missing drive.

All of this is untested/unconfirmed, ymmv.