SageTV XBMC plugin

[7up]

As much as I'd like to see this plug-in be developed, I suspect the level of interest in support both here on the forum and at kickstarter is a reflection of the number of current/active users of SageTV.

"A king has his reign, and then he dies."

[panteragstk]

Has anyone actually used XBMC as a pvr front end? I have with mediaportal and it's terrible. If this is what our money would get us I don't see the point.

I have to think what our goal is would be a much more robust version of what I've seen. I do think that anyone interested in this project needs to look at the current pvr back ends and see if XBMC is even something they'd want to use.

[nyplayer]

Originally Posted by panteragstk

Has anyone actually used XBMC as a pvr front end? I have with mediaportal and it's terrible. If this is what our money would get us I don't see the point.

I have to think what our goal is would be a much more robust version of what I've seen. I do think that anyone interested in this project needs to look at the current pvr back ends and see if XBMC is even something they'd want to use.

I used it with NEXTPVR and WMC backend and it is terrible the Series cannot be grouped.... It only sorts by date ... I read that this is a limitation in XBMC not the backend. I guess this is just for those that want to continue using Sagetv... and be able to use XBMC in clients or extenders. Does not help those that have to eventually switch to WMC as more and more channels become copy once.

[panteragstk]

For live TV I can see the benefit of XBMC, but that's really it. Plex does everything else I need it to (and with the mediaportal plugin it even does live TV).

I just wish I knew more about what was possible with XBMC. If we could get all the current recording and management functionality it could be great. I just don't know if it's possible.

[sflamm]

Think folks should remember that XBMC is actively evolving and likely to be much better in the future. The current version is much improved over last... The plugin is a bet on the future. There is no future with SageTV frontend unfortunately.

[SHS]

I'm Not interested
The way I see it is if XBMC can't write in there own TV Capture, EPG stuff and so on then they have not business try make it even more useless by add in backend 3rdparty apps in to there all ready useless front end.
There XBMC For Android is joke.

[7up]

Originally Posted by SHS

I'm Not interested
The way I see it is if XBMC can't write in there own TV Capture, EPG stuff and so on then they have not business try make it even more useless by add in backend 3rdparty apps in to there all ready useless front end.
There XBMC For Android is joke.

You're the moderator here and are certainly entitled to your opinions however the sheer number of users of XBMC and its active development make your comments out of touch with reality. More importantly, the purpose of the plug-in is to allow SageTV owners another option for adding an extender.

Its a shame when another SageTV user and in particular the moderator, uses his personal viewpoint to bash software development. I fully expect you will delete my post.

[sflamm]

Its a shame when another SageTV user...

Agreed. If you dont want to support the project then simply dont. Don't see the value of being negative or bashing.

There are only 37 backers currently. The good news is that many of them have been very supportive ( but too many are giving only $1 or $5 - not sure why you would only give $1). If we can get to 400 backers we will succeed.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by 7up

You're the moderator here and are certainly entitled to your opinions however the sheer number of users of XBMC and its active development make your comments out of touch with reality. More importantly, the purpose of the plug-in is to allow SageTV owners another option for adding an extender.

Its a shame when another SageTV user and in particular the moderator, uses his personal viewpoint to bash software development. I fully expect you will delete my post.

Just because I'm a moderator I see no reason to delete your any one else post 7up and you should know me better then that have ever del any post here or on shspvr forum NO why because I believe in openness good or bad even got lots hauppauge bash there even got req from hauppauge to remove a few post but I said NO as long it not spam the way I see it is you have to take good with bad .
The reason why I bash that software development is because that not fix first problem with XBMC make it better integrated and easy to use as better XBMC TV Server software with useful Setup Wizard and Config integrated but no it using other 3rdparty software too get round XBMC big mess which just go to show you how much better SageTV is, so what point of doing this.
Another words put all that energy in to development a better XBMC TV Server.
It not diff then when Beyond TV and Beyond Media what is point of 2 diff apps when should been Integrated but as can see it ended as failed product at time.

[panteragstk]

Interesting point. I wonder why the XBMC guys don't develop their own PVR software instead of relying on existing software? They certainly have the talent.

[Hotliner]

This Project seems to have stalled.. perhaps another round of msgs to other site may get it back on track again.

We have a long way to go to get the funding ... I think the goal is high.. but i think it's possible..

Hotliner

[sflamm]

Agreed. It is not easy to reach prospective SageTV users as there is no centralized list.

Any effort/help on your part to raise awareness is appreciated.

[reggie14]

I don't think the problem is getting the message out. I think the problem is interest level.

These forums are almost certainly the most effective method for getting word out to the community. While the number of posts have dropped, it still gets decent traffic from lurkers. The new batch of HD300s were posted pretty quietly and suddenly, yet they still got snatched up awfully fast.

I'm sure it's not hitting all current SageTV users, but I suspect there's a strong correlation between those users who would be plausibly interested in a plugin like this and those users who continue to read the forums somewhat regularly.

I'm not particularly interested in this, but I can see why someone would find value in it. I just don't think there are enough SageTV users out there. I'm sure that's already a fairly small number, and this niche effort is only going to be interesting to a fraction of them.

[sflamm]

I doubt most SageTV users frequent the forums at all. Only very 'active' users.

[reggie14]

Originally Posted by sflamm

I doubt most SageTV users frequent the forums at all. Only very 'active' users.

Could be- I don't know. But either way, I bet the people that aren't occasionally checking the forums wouldn't be that interested in changing their setups. I could believe that you've only got to 1/2 the people that would be plausibly interested in supporting this- maybe even only 1/4. Certainly not just 1/10, though.

Props to you for trying, though. There was no great way to gauge interest without giving it a try.

[Hatterasman]

I'm willing to support this...headed over to kickstarter.

I love SageTV and the idea that "replacement extenders" would be available if needed is great.

I don't visit the forums much anymore and stumbled onto this yesterday.

[routerunner]

Last night I had a look at the XBMC-adds-on GitHub repository and found it very interesting...

I don't particularly need extenders right now, but I was tinkering of a Raspberry Pi for next year and was pondering on what I could do with it as well

Eddy