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Old 07-28-2011, 07:17 AM
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Why 3 sagetv servers?
They're in different places around the house and provide different functionality. One of the best features of the HD extenders is being able to simply switch between servers. I had been considering merging two of the servers via network encoding, but that was back when I could get another HD-300 ...
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Old 07-28-2011, 11:20 AM
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This is not about starting a flame war.. but it is about looking at replacement MC... being plug-ins are being killed off one at a time...
What plugins are being killed? The only one that I am aware of, and it isn't technically a plugin, is the SageTV Windows gadget.
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Old 07-29-2011, 02:45 PM
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They're in different places around the house and provide different functionality. One of the best features of the HD extenders is being able to simply switch between servers. I had been considering merging two of the servers via network encoding, but that was back when I could get another HD-300 ...
Not sure what extra functionality they'd offer that couldn't be combined into a single server. There are no real limits on space/number of tuners in a system, unless it's a matter of pcie slots or something.
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Old 07-29-2011, 05:40 PM
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I imagine he uses one for recording the kids stuff one for the Wifey and the third one is chocked full o porn
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Old 07-29-2011, 06:19 PM
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I imagine he uses one for recording the kids stuff one for the Wifey and the third one is chocked full o porn
Oh, understood.. but there are ways to do that with a single system as well.
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:08 PM
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Not sure what extra functionality they'd offer that couldn't be combined into a single server. There are no real limits on space/number of tuners in a system, unless it's a matter of pcie slots or something.
They are in different locations and serve distinct purposes: one is in a dedicated media room, one is in the workout room and one is the generic household server. I don't want the conditions of one server to impact the other two. The main server has two DSS receivers, the other two have one each. I'm never going to get to the point that I don't have at least two servers, since I would not want to be in position where I'd have to have a functioning Sage system to watch stuff in the media room. In fact, two of the rooms that have HD extenders also have their own DSS receivers ...
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Old 07-29-2011, 07:10 PM
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I imagine he uses one for recording the kids stuff one for the Wifey and the third one is chocked full o porn
We don't have kids and, as such, can watch all off the porn we want, whenever we want ...
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Old 07-29-2011, 08:01 PM
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Sage Replacement - In the same boat

I have been using a copule of SageTV HD300's to access my DVD's stored on my server and the MyMovies database. I love the product(s) and it has served me well. I was just getting ready to add two more units when Google made its move!

Replacements - humm...

I have been looking for similar devices to access and play my DVD's and a few BD. Below is a list of those I have found that are suspose to be able to use my MyMovies data. I am very much open to other suggestions and input.

Want List:
1) Access over 8TB of dvd/BD stored on my server in VIDEO_TS and BDMV folders

2) Utilize all the related info stored in the MyMovies database

3) Clean/Simple interface like MyMovies/SageTV

4) Not really interested in other functions such as Internet access, DVR, tunner, etc.

5) Current software, patches and firmware.

6) Hardware that is going to be supported and a company that will be around for a few years.

7) HDMI 1.3+ output upto 1080p.
Looking at List (based only on MyMovies metadata storage options):
HDI Dune
Mede8er
Popcorn Hour
Tvix
Xtreamer

Small cube computer with minimal OS and MS Media Center
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Old 07-29-2011, 09:22 PM
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... Small cube computer with minimal OS and MS Media Center
For the record, I picked up a Giada Cube N3 a couple of weeks ago, but cannot seem to coax even acceptable SageTV Client performance out of it. I started out with Windows XP on it and have since moved on to Vista, since I've learned that the acceleration features of the ION chip don't work on XP.

I don't have a copy of Windows 7, but it appears that this may be the only way to get a system like this (Dual-core Atom 1.6GHz, ION, 4GB Ram) to work ...
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Old 07-30-2011, 06:20 AM
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For the record, I picked up a Giada Cube N3 a couple of weeks ago, but cannot seem to coax even acceptable SageTV Client performance out of it. I started out with Windows XP on it and have since moved on to Vista, since I've learned that the acceleration features of the ION chip don't work on XP.

I don't have a copy of Windows 7, but it appears that this may be the only way to get a system like this (Dual-core Atom 1.6GHz, ION, 4GB Ram) to work ...
I han an atom 330/ion and it handled Sage just fine plus any other file I threw at it. Mine ran on XP. Test suggestions: the gpu memory shares with the system memory so I used 4 gb. Play around with the codecs, the right one makes all the difference(sorry I can' t remember which one' s I used)
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Old 07-30-2011, 07:03 AM
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Looking at List (based only on MyMovies metadata storage options):
HDI Dune
Mede8er
Popcorn Hour
Tvix
Xtreamer
I've read everything I could about all these boxes, and based on those reviews I'd limit yourself to the Dune or Popcorn Hour.
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Old 07-30-2011, 09:45 AM
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I han an atom 330/ion and it handled Sage just fine plus any other file I threw at it. Mine ran on XP...
In that case I would suspect that the video driver is the culprit. I am using the latest nVidia ION package, and not the one (from Dec '10) on the Giada website. Not only is Sage bad, but VLC, WatchHDTV, and Media Player Classic are all under-performing ...
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Old 07-31-2011, 05:24 PM
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Now that I can't buy SageTV, advice needed

Having played with SageTV long ago, I recently came back to try it again and see that its no longer available for purchase.

Unless something changes, and a new google-sagetv version is released, I need to figure out an alternative. Not thrilled with BeyondTV so can I get some opinions on what other software might be a reasonable alternative? Most interested in PVR functionality.

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Old 07-31-2011, 06:35 PM
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Look at nPVR (Used to be GB-PVR-Now it is NextPVR). This is probably the most similar to Sage and was primarily developed as a PVR. Of course MythTV is out there. MediaPortal/XMBC is out there but their strength is NOT their PVR.

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Old 07-31-2011, 06:37 PM
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I would agree nPVR is the most 'sage-like' out there.. MCE is probably the most 'complete' product, and would be fine if you only have one location to deal with.
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Old 07-31-2011, 10:38 PM
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Maybe you could image your computer, then install the 21-day trial. Who knows, maybe the SageTV store could open in 21 days, but don't bet the farm on it. It would be a pain to re-install the trial every 21-days and reconfigure everything. Unless you could recover to day 1 with an image on day 20. I don't think anything is close to SageTV yet.

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Old 08-01-2011, 03:11 PM
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I spent the weekend playing with Sage7 beta. What a great app this has become. Its hard to believe they have plans to release a new version given they have halted sales as why stop new revenues? Not that it going to happen but some new from Jeff or even a "leak" from Google would be welcome.

Also spent some time with BTV, nPVR, MCE7 and mediaporta1.2beta none of which I'm too thrilled with. MCE seems to be the most polished but not that configurable. Mediaportal 1.2 seems like it may have the most potential and reminds me of what using much earlier versions of Sage were like which means its got a ways to go.

I'm sort of kicking myself now for not buying license but who could have predicted an end to sales

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I spent the weekend playing with Sage7 beta. What a great app this has become. Its hard to believe they have plans to release a new version given they have halted sales as why stop new revenues? Not that it going to happen but some new from Jeff or even a "leak" from Google would be welcome.

Also spent some time with BTV, nPVR, MCE7 and mediaporta1.2beta none of which I'm too thrilled with. MCE seems to be the most polished but not that configurable. Mediaportal 1.2 seems like it may have the most potential and reminds me of what using much earlier versions of Sage were like which means its got a ways to go.

I'm sort of kicking myself now for not buying license but who could have predicted an end to sales
Go check out the software section. If you have a v5 or 6 (IIRC) license you get v7 for "free". Not sure about clients.
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Old 08-01-2011, 05:12 PM
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Go check out the software section. If you have a v5 or 6 (IIRC) license you get v7 for "free". Not sure about clients.
Client licenses don't have any versioning. a client license will work with any version of sagetvclient. However, you have to HAVE a client license.
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Old 08-03-2011, 12:16 PM
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I would agree nPVR is the most 'sage-like' out there.. MCE is probably the most 'complete' product, and would be fine if you only have one location to deal with.
Fuzzy,

I being doing research not out of paranoia but out of need of adding clients which I cannot do it with SageTv anymore. Windows 7 MCE gives me the ability to watch live TV on their XBOX entenders based on the numbers of tuners I have available. Given the steep prices of HD200\300 on Fleabay, the new XBOX 360 seems like a great alternative as an extender. It is quieter and smaller. I personally do not want to go the game console route but that is one option to expand. I am more a PC client guy. There is a program from DVBlink to add tuners on a centralized server and being seens by WMC "client" PC's on the newtork! Some light at teh end of the tunnel for us with upgrade needs. Not as lively as SageTV but it is an upgrade alternative.
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