Request for largest available Fanart pack

[tmiranda]

I've got a collection that is 1.7GB. I'll upload them to my DropBox and then post a link here. The upload will take a while and I have a busy day tomorrow so Tuesday would be a reasonable ETA.

[mkanet]

Holy cow! That's just your fanart "Movie" folder? Sounds like a lot of high res pictures! Anyway, your Fanart/Movies folder is all I need; as my TV fanart/metadata get automatically downloaded. So, it might take less time to upload.

I appreciate it tmiranda!

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I've got a collection that is 1.7GB. I'll upload them to my DropBox and then post a link here. The upload will take a while and I have a busy day tomorrow so Tuesday would be a reasonable ETA.

[mkanet]

Hey there tmiranda, I didnt want to bug you yesterday. Anyway, did you get a chance to finish? I wanted to catch you before the thanksgiving holidays.

Alternately, I've been working on a way to freshly download all fanart using the below command against a complete list of movies. Unfortunately, I can't find a complete list of movies.

java -jar MetadataTool.jar --offline "%1"

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I've got a collection that is 1.7GB. I'll upload them to my DropBox and then post a link here. The upload will take a while and I have a busy day tomorrow so Tuesday would be a reasonable ETA.

[Fuzzy]

What do you mean by a 'complete list of movies'? You could probably generate a list from an search using the web interface, which should be able to export everything that is category 'movie' in your recordings... You are asking for a 'fanart pack', but that'd be dependant on what movies you actually HAVE... There are a LOT of movies out there, and I'm betting noone here has the same selection as you do. I think this is teh primary reason people were pointing your towards actually using BMT for it (instead of just asking others to do it for you).

[mkanet]

BMI, doesnt automatically download TV movies. You would only know this if you actually record movies on sageTV (such as from HBO, SHO, MAX, etc). It works fine for TV series very nicely. However, if I rip a movie to disk from bluray/DVD to a single media file, then, BMI will automatically download the fanart for that; and, keep the fanart handle if I ever decide to watch / record that movie on TV. If I make a fake text file called Finding Nemo.avi, this will trigger BMI to generate the TV movie. Disk space is cheap enough to where I can do something like this

I'm not the best at creating scripts, but if I have a list of movies I can export to a text file which is space or comma delimited, I can temporarily/automatically make each file name from that list and have the command line below run against that temp file.

The three best ideas I have are to figure out a way to automatically schedule a scrape of upcoming movies titiles from my TV linup updates fro zap2it and run the script against that list or... download all the moviename.nfo files from my newserver and rename the extentionss to .avi. Once, all the fanrart downloads, I can delete the fake avi files. The last way would be to just download a fanart movie folder from someone else that's collected fanart for many movies. They dont necessarily have to have the movies for them to have the fanart; same concept as above.

Hopefully, that explain better...
-Michael

Unfortuantely, this is the only ways I can think of doing it until BMI is fixed in version 4.0.


java -jar MetadataTool.jar --offline "Finding Nemo.avi"

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

What do you mean by a 'complete list of movies'? You could probably generate a list from an search using the web interface, which should be able to export everything that is category 'movie' in your recordings... You are asking for a 'fanart pack', but that'd be dependant on what movies you actually HAVE... There are a LOT of movies out there, and I'm betting noone here has the same selection as you do. I think this is teh primary reason people were pointing your towards actually using BMT for it (instead of just asking others to do it for you).

[Fuzzy]

[QUOTE=mkanet;394304]BMI, doesnt automatically download TV movies. You would only know this if you actually record movies on sageTV (such as from HBO, SHO, MAX, etc)./QUOTE]

I DO record movies. And, yes, I'm aware that BMI doesn't properly handle Recorded Movies. However, again, you're acting hostile about it, and hard for us to help.

That aside, I DID mention a way to get what you wanted. Using the sage interface click:
SageTV
Search Recorded TV Files
Limit To Category: MOVIE
Click Search
Click on the XML icon at the top of the results page.

This will give you an XML file with all your recorded movies in it. In there it will have the paths you want.

You should be able to do the same thing to get a list of upcoming movies by searching the EPG.

[mkanet]

I really do appreciate you trying to help. Yes, the xml data resource in the zap2it linups is where I would get the data to even begin to automate via scripting. Honestly, the way you mentioned worded things didnt sound like you knew there was an issue at all and didnt realize that there are people who keep fanart collections of movies that may not actually be identical to the large fanart collection they may have downloaded from a download such as the Massive Fanart Pack in the sageTV dowloads section. That's one of the reasons why there are downloads like this in the first place (although, pretty scarce because of bandwidth concerns). Sorry I didnt mean to sound hostile, probably the same way you didnt mean to sound hostile by saying "I think this is teh primary reason people were pointing your towards actually using BMT for it (instead of just asking others to do it for you)". I'm curious, what was I asking others to do for me other than downloading a shared fanart collection? The whole point is that BMI can't do it for me by itself unless I make an automated solution. If youre goal is to offer help such as a script which would take the data from my linups and run it against a BMI command line automatically (which is what I mentioned I'm working on), I would really appreciate it; or, if you know of another massive fanart download that would be great too. Of course, either way, whatever solution I come up with, I'll be glad to share with others who want to suppliment the issue to help improve their BMI experience.

Sincerely,
MKANET

[quote=Fuzzy;394347]

Originally Posted by mkanet

BMI, doesnt automatically download TV movies. You would only know this if you actually record movies on sageTV (such as from HBO, SHO, MAX, etc)./QUOTE]

I DO record movies. And, yes, I'm aware that BMI doesn't properly handle Recorded Movies. However, again, you're acting hostile about it, and hard for us to help.

That aside, I DID mention a way to get what you wanted. Using the sage interface click:
SageTV
Search Recorded TV Files
Limit To Category: MOVIE
Click Search
Click on the XML icon at the top of the results page.

This will give you an XML file with all your recorded movies in it. In there it will have the paths you want.

You should be able to do the same thing to get a list of upcoming movies by searching the EPG.

[Fuzzy]

I guess it's not so much hostility, as more a lack of appreciation for the hard work that goes into it. Saying software is 'broken' and 'buggy' is hardly complimentary, especially when it DOES fulfill nearly everyone's wishes - for free. Also, the need for a large 'fanart' pack seems odd as well, since it DOES do a great job of automatic downloads for NEARLY everything. I'm guessing in the time it took you to rant through this thread, you could have clicked your way through the BMI interface for all the movies you HAVE recorded already, and had the proper data there already. Aside from that, I'm pretty sure Stuckless has already acknowledged the lack of Recorded Movie support, and stated that it will be an included feature at some point. My guess is that any 'pack' you could find would be lacking a LOT of stuff, as tastes vary a LOT when it comes to movie collections. Also, with the plugin working well for most, I'm guessing the need for a larger pack would be diminished.

[mkanet]

This was covered a while back. Almost done with a pretty good workaround. I guess you wont be needing it.

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

I guess it's not so much hostility, as more a lack of appreciation for the hard work that goes into it. Saying software is 'broken' and 'buggy' is hardly complimentary, especially when it DOES fulfill nearly everyone's wishes - for free. Also, the need for a large 'fanart' pack seems odd as well, since it DOES do a great job of automatic downloads for NEARLY everything. I'm guessing in the time it took you to rant through this thread, you could have clicked your way through the BMI interface for all the movies you HAVE recorded already, and had the proper data there already. Aside from that, I'm pretty sure Stuckless has already acknowledged the lack of Recorded Movie support, and stated that it will be an included feature at some point. My guess is that any 'pack' you could find would be lacking a LOT of stuff, as tastes vary a LOT when it comes to movie collections. Also, with the plugin working well for most, I'm guessing the need for a larger pack would be diminished.

[mkanet]

SUCCESS!! I finally got a working prototype which automatically downloads all TV movie fanart for the TV lineups available in the sageTV Guide. I could do it for TV shows just as easy. This way, any movie/show people can see in their sageTV TV Guide should already have fanart. This should complete the missing gap in BMI. Even when you get automatic TV movie fanart to work in BMI 4, this still could be a valuable tool since your updated TV movie fanart could already be sitting there ready for you when browsing your TV Guide as soon as your TV lineup gets updated. I've only tested this under Windows/Jetty Webserver/ BMI 3.x. Currently, I need to make the prototype 100% automatic and 100% reliable (although, it seems to work pretty good).

This should be a valuable tool for people who record TV Movies a lot who want to just "set it and forget it"... fanart just gets downloaded for everything in their Guide either Movies or TV or both ahead of time.

(I posted this in the BMI thread as well)

-Michael

[big poppa pump]

Why would anyone in their right mind need fanart for every show coming up on their guide?

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by mkanet

SUCCESS!! I finally got a working prototype which automatically downloads all TV movie fanart for the TV lineups available in the sageTV Guide. I could do it for TV shows just as easy. This way, any movie/show people can see in their sageTV TV Guide should already have fanart. This should complete the missing gap in BMI. Even when you get automatic TV movie fanart to work in BMI 4, this still could be a valuable tool since your updated TV movie fanart could already be sitting there ready for you when browsing your TV Guide as soon as your TV lineup gets updated. I've only tested this under Windows/Jetty Webserver/ BMI 3.x. Currently, I need to make the prototype 100% automatic and 100% reliable (although, it seems to work pretty good).

This should be a valuable tool for people who record TV Movies a lot who want to just "set it and forget it"... fanart just gets downloaded for everything in their Guide either Movies or TV or both ahead of time.

(I posted this in the BMI thread as well)

-Michael

Michael,

Good to hear you got this working. The upload I was doing for you failed and I was too busy with the holiday to do much about it.

Tom

[mkanet]

I dont know, you'll have to ask people who end up using it. I feel the same way about some of the other software downloads available for sageTV. But, the great news about sageTV software contributions is if you dont like them, you dont have to em.

Originally Posted by big poppa pump

Why would anyone in their right mind need fanart for every show coming up on their guide?

[mkanet]

Thanks bro. I appreciate you trying anyway. That did sound like a pretty big upload anyway. I'm glad I waited though, it gave me the motivation to make something which I can use thats more specific to movies available to me; plus, the chance to contribute back to the sage community with something that maybe someone else might want. I somehow squeezed this little project in with a quick visit to the parent's house for Thanksgiving dinner.

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Michael,

Good to hear you got this working. The upload I was doing for you failed and I was too busy with the holiday to do much about it.

Tom

[Fuzzy]

I'd agree that it's a little excessive to run a grab on every upcoming movie... but hey, I guess if that's what you want... If that was your goal, I guess that's why having a massive pack for movies you wouldn't care for anyways makes a little more sense. So how long until you upgrade your storage to support his? :-)

[mkanet]

Actually, there are more people than you might think that have a "complete" fanart collection. tmiranda, who was nice enough to offer his collection in this thread has a 1.7GB size fanart collection. This is roughly the size of all cableTV/satellite movies and TV series shows. I know this, because my collection ended up being roughly the same size. The problem is, not many people are willing to upload that large of a collection and pay for the bandwidth for people to download. If someone has a large list of premium movie channels/movies, the download for this is available, have a fast Internet connnection, and have a couple of GB's to spare, why not? I dont see what negative affect of this. Some people may not understand this, and take it as far as announcing that people who do this aren't in their right mind; which is fine by me.

However, I have to say, when your navigating through a sageTV Guide grid full of premium cable TV movies channels and movies trying to see what's on or record, its just breathtaking to see fanart for whatever you're navigating through. This is one of the things that set's the sageTV Guide apart from the typical vanilla DVR Guide grid. It's not quite that nice to see missing fanart when navigating through the guide; and, might as well turn off fanart support for the guide. I mean this sincerely, that people dont know what they are missing if they have an extensive premium movie channel list on their sageTV guide and dont have a complete collection (or close to complete). It's soft of like trying to explain to someone who hasn't seen the benefits of fanart on a DVR, how it can enhance the look of a UI.

I guess the same concept applies to the complete hi-res transparent channel logo collection I have for Comcast cable and DVB-S Satellite channels. I was a bit luckier in that case since there was already someone who took the time to download/collect ALL of them; making them available in the sageTV downloads section.

Hopefully, a good lesson learned from this is people have different tastes. Some people may not understand other people's tastes; and may have a natural tendency to poke fun or put them down. I try not to judge; although, I admit tha I have been guilty of doing that in the past. I am far from perfect and I am certainly making an active effort to improve on certain qualities; particularly making a sincere effort to focus on trying not to give the perception of being hostile/insincere. I cant even begin to describe how much harder it is in person (for those those that dont know me) as a 257lbs competitive mixed martial arts fighter & bodybuilder (which are my 2 other passions/hobbies that keep me very busy).

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

I'd agree that it's a little excessive to run a grab on every upcoming movie... but hey, I guess if that's what you want... If that was your goal, I guess that's why having a massive pack for movies you wouldn't care for anyways makes a little more sense. So how long until you upgrade your storage to support his? :-)

[Tropicaljoe]

Mkanet, I have been hoping that someday someone would develop this! your right its great to scan through the program guide and admire the beautiful images! one suggestion possibly for your project. Some type of task that can be run maybe via sjq that would scan your current program guide, download new images and erase whats not there or not needed anymore, thus keeping it cleaned out of old images. Would be willing to help beta this one!