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Old 01-23-2004, 06:41 PM
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Favorites not working?

Anyone else having a problem with their favorites in 2.0? I'll wait to report this as a bug until I figure out if its me being stupid or if it is a real bug.

I go to favorites manager and all my favs are there. I look at upcoming recording schedule and none of them are listed on the day/time it should be recording. I removed all my favs and used 2.0 to re-add them and it is still happening!
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Old 01-23-2004, 06:55 PM
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Mine are showing up just fine. You may have to scroll down the guide to when they are actually going to record.
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Old 01-23-2004, 07:38 PM
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I've scrolled all the way to the correct date and time....gave up for now....will play with it later.
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Old 01-24-2004, 12:09 AM
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I thought I had the same problem with the Screen Savers today. Then I scrolled to the 9.00 oclock show instead of the 4:00 and it was highlighted to record.
Been busy with other things havent checked yet if it happen but it was highlighted for the next show. Not sure why the 4:00 was the first show and it had no reason to move up to the next recording. Well check tomorrow.
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Old 01-24-2004, 07:14 AM
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They work fine for me. As a matter of fact. tjhe Favorites have a cool new feature. They divided into First run and re run entires (for shows I record both). Their position on the list now decides their importance in conflict resoloution. I can put my reruns at the bottom so they dont interfere with something more important. I like it.
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Old 01-24-2004, 04:31 PM
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Yeah, I like it too. But then again, it is fairly TiVo like and that is what I am used to.

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Old 02-02-2004, 07:08 AM
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My favorites work ..... sometimes.
Forinstance, i have it set to record first run and re run episodes of the real world, and i have several other favorites defined below it. What is happening though is that EVERYTHING else is being recorded (with an occasional real world), but the actual new one (tuesday is not). This happens with my other favorites as well. Just randomly seeming to pick a favorite to record. Sometimes there is NOTHING Set to record even when a favorite is one. Wierd. Noone else with this issue?
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Old 02-02-2004, 07:08 AM
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My favorites work ..... sometimes.
Forinstance, i have it set to record first run and re run episodes of the real world, and i have several other favorites defined below it. What is happening though is that EVERYTHING else is being recorded (with an occasional real world), but the actual new one (tuesday is not). This happens with my other favorites as well. Just randomly seeming to pick a favorite to record. Sometimes there is NOTHING Set to record even when a favorite should be. Wierd. Noone else with this issue?

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Old 02-02-2004, 08:27 AM
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I noticed that some faveourites were not being scheduled when they were 'First Run Only'.. Changing them to 'FirstRuns and ReRuns' enabled the scheduling... When I looked at the program info in the guide, the programs were shecduled as 'FirstRun' so they should have been recorded...

I thought it might have been something to do with my XMLTV data source/plugin, but now I am starting to wonder whether it is something more sinister!

My test was:
* Select First-Run-only-favourite
* select 'Additional airings
* nothing found
* change favourite to First-Runs and Re-Runs
* Select 'Additional Airings'
* several airings found
* Select Airing, hit Info
* see that it says 'First Run'
* Get confused, give up and set all favourites to FirstRuns+ReRuns..

I will do some more testing...

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Old 02-02-2004, 09:56 AM
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If it appears not to have scheduled a favorite that you think it should, look to see if it has already recorded that particular episode recently or if it is scheduled to record it at another point. Sage make an effort to only record each episode once, I believe.

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Old 02-03-2004, 06:58 PM
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I just had a quick configure today and noted that my recording schedule looked a bit bare.. I had two programs following a favourite that was recorded that i wanted recording.. I decided to add the following two shows as favourites.. they showed up in the live tv guide surrounded by the white border (bizarely last night i had a favourite show up with a red border, not sure why).. yet going to upcoming recordings and it just wouldn't add them... god knows what was needed to be added but i tried putting sage to sleep, restarting it from fresh.. nothing.. it wasn't going to record these unconflicting favourites.. in fact it was going to record nothing at all..

Eventually i had to manually set to record them and then i think it got them..

I hope too its not an xmltv related issue tho i didn't look into the first run business at all ...
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Old 02-03-2004, 07:43 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by nielm
I noticed that some faveourites were not being scheduled when they were 'First Run Only'.. Changing them to 'FirstRuns and ReRuns' enabled the scheduling... When I looked at the program info in the guide, the programs were shecduled as 'FirstRun' so they should have been recorded...

I thought it might have been something to do with my XMLTV data source/plugin, but now I am starting to wonder whether it is something more sinister!

My test was:
* Select First-Run-only-favourite
* select 'Additional airings
* nothing found
* change favourite to First-Runs and Re-Runs
* Select 'Additional Airings'
* several airings found
* Select Airing, hit Info
* see that it says 'First Run'
* Get confused, give up and set all favourites to FirstRuns+ReRuns..

I will do some more testing...
This is the XMLTV data source. Even if the description says first run the necessary flag is not being set by XMLTV (the flag that Sage uses). So... it defaults to being a re-run. You may want to go back to using a single favorite (with both rerun and first run specified) or at least have both type of favorites created as favorites and rank them accordingly.
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Old 02-03-2004, 10:48 PM
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Check out this thread.

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Old 02-03-2004, 11:00 PM
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the thing is, im not using xmltv, and im getting the same problems.
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Old 02-04-2004, 05:19 AM
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Mikbro: Actually, XMLTV defaults to always being a first-run. I am also using a plugin that does correctly set the flag to rerun if the <previously-shown> tag appears in XMLTV (which my data source does set when appropriate).

Anyway, ignoring XMLTV, just looking at the data in the TV Guide shows the issue. My problem was that programs marked with FirstRun in the guide were not being selected for recording (nor found with 'Additional Airings') for a 'First Run' favourite...

Changing the favourite to FirstRun+ReRun, and then selecting Add'l Airings does show these shows and selecting info on them confirms that they are 'FirstRuns'

All my favourites are now FirstRuns+ReRuns..
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Old 02-04-2004, 08:26 AM
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All my favourites are now FirstRuns+ReRuns..
Now isn't that what I said to do - you just had to ignore what I said
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Old 02-07-2004, 06:46 AM
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This would seem to be some sort of bug then, as I am having the exact same problem. The other night, SageTV didn't record the new Enterprise on Wednesday night. It was simply not even in the recording schedule. I do not want SageTV to be recording every single rerun, only first run showings.

If I set all of my favorites to rerun+firstrun, I will be getting a lot of extra shows that I don't want recorded. Any ideas? Is this a bug that is being worked on? It seems like a rather nasty bug that kind of kills the whole purpose of a PVR system.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:30 AM
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Make sure that Sage was not planning on recording Enterprise later in the week. I know it has a second "First Run" later at some point. If you have a single tuner system that can happen. However, you should be able to successfully use the first\rerun settings of your favorites for sure if you are not using XMLTV. Once XMLTV comes into the picture lots of things can happen.

I have not heard that Frey is working on this as a bug right now. If we can get it to a reproducible state they will certainly put resources on it.
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Old 02-07-2004, 07:47 AM
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Well, my problem is this. I do have a single tuner system, but NOTHING was scheduled that night. Ideally it should schedule the FIRST showing of any favorite, then use the conflict resolution code to schedule favorites that conflict at later dates according to the order the favorites are listed in the favorites management list.

The problem here is that it didn't record it at all, and there was nothing else scheduled to record during that time slot, or anywhere 3 hours before or after it, for a total of 7 hours of space between the last scheduled recording and the next scheduled recording, and it didn't schedule the recording for saturday either. I had to manually find the recording and press record on it.

I am using Sage to automatically download my guide listings, which I'm assuming is from XMLTV, and so far, it has been doing a good job. Any ideas as to how I can get sage to behave itself? It was very disappointing to come home after working all night and find it had not recorded my show when there was zero reason it couldn't.
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Old 02-07-2004, 08:07 AM
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If you are using SageTV for you guide data then you are not using XMLTV which is a good thing. You are using real Zap2It data.

One thing that Sage will do is if it detects a conflict, it will look ahead and see if it can get the same episode. It does that behind the scenes and there will be no conflict resolution displayed to us if it finds one.

However, if there was nothing being recorded last night it should not have needed to do that. Can you provide some more info so we can try to duplicate this? What is your Zip-code and cable provider? What show was it you were trying to record? You mentioned Enterprise but for me that is Wednesdays so I want to make sure .
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