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Old 07-11-2007, 06:11 PM
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Router died, replaced with gigabit, now have question

So a router on my home LAN died, and I decided to replace it and another it a seperate part of the house with gigabit switches. While I was at it, I got a gigabit NIC for my server as well.

As you can see from my .sig, I run a two MVP/ headless server setup. I really don't transfer large files around the network other than what Sage does.

Is there any advantage to actually install the new NIC in my server? It'd be the only 1000 Mbit NIC in the house, so there would be nothing for it to 'talk' with at gigabit speeds.

The switches are only functioning at 10/100 now, but I have them for the future when I decide to upgrade additional CPUs to 1000 Mbits.

Any thoughts?

matt
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Old 07-11-2007, 06:24 PM
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So a router on my home LAN died, and I decided to replace it and another it a seperate part of the house with gigabit switches. While I was at it, I got a gigabit NIC for my server as well.

As you can see from my .sig, I run a two MVP/ headless server setup. I really don't transfer large files around the network other than what Sage does.

Is there any advantage to actually install the new NIC in my server? It'd be the only 1000 Mbit NIC in the house, so there would be nothing for it to 'talk' with at gigabit speeds.

The switches are only functioning at 10/100 now, but I have them for the future when I decide to upgrade additional CPUs to 1000 Mbits.

Any thoughts?

matt
I have a GigE network card in my server for when I need to transfer video files, and it makes a BIG difference. I would wait and install the GigE NICs on those machines that will benefit from them, when they need them. If you are running MVPs, and are not editing the videos after recording them, I wouldn't be in any hurry. In my case, I had to have them (transferring 4-8 GB files over 100baseT is rather painful).
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Old 07-11-2007, 07:02 PM
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OK, thanks. I was thinking that it's working now, so why mess with it. I'll have the card for now, and will toss it in when I get around to putting another in my main computer.

As an aside, here are the errors that you see when your router is slowly dying, and your MVP is trying to connect through it to the server:

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Sun 7/8 16:19:23.126 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:23.332 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:23.416 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:23.623 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:25.121 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:25.327 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:28.812 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:29.018 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:31.417 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:31.623 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:39.427 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:39.633 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:42.330 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:42.536 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:47.437 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:47.645 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:19:55.446 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:19:55.652 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:20:03.456 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:20:03.736 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.560 Sage.exit() called.
Sun 7/8 16:20:05.561 Cleaning up servers
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.563 Error w/SageTV client connection:java.net.SocketExceptionsocket closed
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.564 MiniError-2:java.net.SocketExceptionsocket closed
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.566 MiniError-3:java.net.SocketExceptionsocket closed
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.567 Cleaning up PM
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.568 MiniError-1:java.net.SocketExceptionsocket closed
Sun 7
/8 16:20:05.570 Killed Carny.
Sun 7/8 16:20:05.571 Killed Scheduler.
 
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Sun 7/8 16:30:00.102 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.363 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.370 Received tftp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.372 Reading dongle.bin.ver in mode octet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.376 Received tftp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.379 Reading dongle.bin in mode octet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.380 Opening file
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.418 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.418 Retry count exceeded
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.428 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.478 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.538 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.588 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.638 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.688 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:00.738 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.419 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.469 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.519 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.521 TFTP error 4
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.523 Received tftp packet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.525 Reading dongle.bin in mode octet
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.525 Opening file
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.569 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.589 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:01.620 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 16:30:02.120 TFTP timeout
 
[...]
 
Sun 7/8 17:12:55.962 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 17:12:56.012 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 17:12:56.062 TFTP timeout
Sun 7
/8 17:12:56.062 Retry count exceeded
Sun 7
/8 17:13:01.757 Received mvp packet
Sun 7
/8 17:13:04.576 Sending mvp reply
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.467 Seeker awoken
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.468 MARK 1 currRecord=null enc=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture clients=[] ir=false
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.469 Seeker in AUTOMATIC mode nextRecord=A[6117527,6029844,"Ice Road Truckers",14771@0708.19:00,60nextTTA=6385532
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.470 newRecord=null
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.470 NOTHING TO RECORD FOR NOW...
Sun 7/8 17:13:34.471 MARK 1 currRecord=null enc=Hauppauge WinTV PVR PCI II Capture #2 clients=[] ir=false
Sun 7/8 17:13:34.471 Seeker in AUTOMATIC mode nextRecord=A[6122558,6122542,"Ice Road Truckers",14771@0708.22:00,60nextTTA=17185532
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.472 newRecord=null
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.472 NOTHING TO RECORD FOR NOW...
Sun 7/8 17:13:34.473 Checking video directories for new files
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.684 Diskspace checking is running
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.685 Verifying existence of all TV media files in database fixDurs=false avoidArchive=true
Sun 7
/8 17:13:34.727 Enforcing keep at most limits for the files...
Sun 7/8 17:13:34.733 Seeker clearing unwanted and partial files...
Sun 7/8 17:13:34.910 Seeker waiting for 101 mins.
Sun 7/8 17:14:51.336 UPnP ERROR:net.sbbi.upnp.messages.UPNPResponseExceptionDetailed error code :501Detailed error description :Action Failed
Sun 7
/8 17:14:51.359 Successfully setup UPnP port mapping!
Sun 7/8 17:14:51.518 Ministry is waiting for 180 sec 
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:30 PM
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So a router on my home LAN died, and I decided to replace it and another it a seperate part of the house with gigabit switches. While I was at it, I got a gigabit NIC for my server as well.

As you can see from my .sig, I run a two MVP/ headless server setup. I really don't transfer large files around the network other than what Sage does.

Is there any advantage to actually install the new NIC in my server? It'd be the only 1000 Mbit NIC in the house, so there would be nothing for it to 'talk' with at gigabit speeds.

The switches are only functioning at 10/100 now, but I have them for the future when I decide to upgrade additional CPUs to 1000 Mbits.

Any thoughts?

matt
I did something similar. $30 GbE switch (D-Link) on sale. One PC with GbE integrated on the mobo. Bought a GbE NIC (PCI bus) for older PC. But that PC would crash/blue-screen after X hours of big file transfers. Too old is all I can say.

Testing I did says that to exceed 100BT speeds with a 1000BT connection between PCs, they have to be fairly new and fast. And a PCI bus NIC for GbE will probably cap out at 500Mbps or so, if not encumbered by the disk speeds. I did tests with IOMeter which can test memory to memory speeds, no disks.

Between two fairly fast PCs, I have achieved 800Mbps or so, with memory to memory, really big data block transfers, no disk I/O involved, and with two applications per PC pushing and taking data. That's not a realistic use case I say. So it does take some doing to exhaust 100BT with two modest PCs. Now if you have several blasting away and video streaming, that's a different story - congestion at the switch.

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