Girder and Sage, Streamzap Raw IR

[traker1001]

Anyone have girder with sage, using the Raw IR with streamzap remote?

Because I seem to be missing something. I am in the "Expert mode" in girder, I have opened sagetv.gml file, I see the raw events from the logger when a key is pressed and drag them to the corresponding action in the gml file.

AKA, I press pause on the remote and see the command popup on the logger, I then select the complete command and drag it to the PAUSE on the Sagetv.gml.

However nuttin happens... How do I tell girder to send the commands to sage or for that matter any other program? I can't seem to figure that out.

Maybe I have a wrong GML file?

[stanger89]

I think you want to pick the command you want to use, hit "Learn" in Girder, and then hit the button on the remote.

There should also be a "Test" option in there somewhere that will activate the girder command (eg Pause) and that should work in Sage regardless of if you have the remote commands linked right or not.

[traker1001]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I think you want to pick the command you want to use, hit "Learn" in Girder, and then hit the button on the remote.

There should also be a "Test" option in there somewhere that will activate the girder command (eg Pause) and that should work in Sage regardless of if you have the remote commands linked right or not.

tried that, And even with the test button, It doesn't communicate. I think it might be a gml issue, Or a send message issue. I cant download the gml off the wiki or the help page off the faq because they seem to be down.

As for the sendmessage issue, Is there anyway to confirm thats actually working properly in the system itself?

I should mention I am doing this on SageClient and not server itself, I don't know if that changes anything...

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by traker1001

tried that, And even with the test button, It doesn't communicate. I think it might be a gml issue, Or a send message issue. I cant download the gml off the wiki or the help page off the faq because they seem to be down.

Try the one attached, it should work, but probably is missing some of the latest additions. The second one I know works, it's what I'm using.

BTW, is there a reason you're using the raw input mode, are you trying to use a different remote with the streamzap receiver?

As for the sendmessage issue, Is there anyway to confirm thats actually working properly in the system itself?

It's probably just the wrong target, that's usually what causes that not to work.

I should mention I am doing this on SageClient and not server itself, I don't know if that changes anything...

It can matter, if you explicitly specify the target, then it won't work if you use the server targets, but if you just specify "sage" (ie not sagetv or sageclient) then it should work for either.

[traker1001]

Originally Posted by stanger89

BTW, is there a reason you're using the raw input mode, are you trying to use a different remote with the streamzap receiver?

Yes, My streamzap died, For reasons that I rather not explain.

Originally Posted by stanger89

It's probably just the wrong target, that's usually what causes that not to work.

I tried changing to the sage directory and running the sendmessage command itself and that does work. But none of the test's in girder seem to affect sage at all.

Originally Posted by stanger89

It can matter, if you explicitly specify the target, then it won't work if you use the server targets, but if you just specify "sage" (ie not sagetv or sageclient) then it should work for either.

Heh, Were do I find this in an alread premaid gml?

Thanks for your help btw, I really appreciate it.

Your posted all.gml file seems to work for me on the test buttons, Now its just a matter of finding a remote that doesn't send a raw ir code for the same keypress.

Any suggestions?

[traker1001]

Some of the commands dont seem to work in sage, For I.E. Pause. I can't get sage to pause even using the send message command which is 1258 1 6 right?

[traker1001]

I found a remote that work absolutly awesome, Now if I could just figure out how to get ALL the commands to work with sage I would be absolutely set.
I dont suppose someone could work with me in creating a sage command in girder from scratch, Doesnt really mater which command I think If I could get the jist of what exactly everything is doing it would go a long way towards helping me understand how girder/sendmessage and sage are all working together.

[stanger89]

Here's the paper describing how to use windows messages:
http://www.sage.tv/2_papers/SageTVWindowsMessages.txt

Of all that, the only things you care about if using girder are the numbers, and they should all work. I know pause works, I've used it.

[traker1001]

Actually pause itself does not work, However I have found that Play/Pause does work, Seems that there are alot of message commands that are only slightly different. Now If I could just use command line to close sage and open close youtube videos I would be in heaven.

I must admit once you get it set up and learn how to use it this girder is absolutely awesome, However it seems the instructions are lacking and the only real way to learn seems to be by a combonation of trial and error, Example, and forums... But hey thats how I learn 90% of my stuff.

One thing that really bugged me was that the only way I could change the sageapp to sage was to go in with a text editor and edit the gml file manually, The manual fails to state this completely.

BTW, Stanger thank you for your help, I would have never gotten anywhere if you hadn't posted those gml's and told me what you did, You opened the door for me to figure out the rest that I needed. So thank you Very very much, I greatly appreciate it. etc...

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by traker1001

One thing that really bugged me was that the only way I could change the sageapp to sage was to go in with a text editor and edit the gml file manually, The manual fails to state this completely.

Right click, Set Targets.

IIRC if you do that on the folder/group, there's a Set Global Targets which sets the targets for all the contained actions.

[jdamore]

Thanks Stanger for posting the gml for Sage.

I must say, my pause doesn't work either. But play/pause is fine

On another note, it took me an hour just to figure out "close file" is really "stop". I'm a complete girder newbie if you couldn't tell.


Girder and NR: The next chapter in my HTPC life...

[CollinR]

You guys might try EventGhost it has native SageTV and streamzap support and it willl talk to Girder via TCP/IP. Also it's free.

[ybrew]

Watching this thread. I really need to do this on my HTPC

[CollinR]

EventGhost will do this in a matter of minutes assuming you are using a streamzap remote. Otherwise maybe an hour if it is an IR remote.

[ybrew]

Originally Posted by CollinR

EventGhost will do this in a matter of minutes assuming you are using a streamzap remote. Otherwise maybe an hour if it is an IR remote.

I've got a streamzap.

will eventghost be used instead of girder or in addition to girder? I was surprised to find girder is no longer free and obviously prefer free stuff.

[CollinR]

Originally Posted by ybrew

I've got a streamzap.

will eventghost be used instead of girder or in addition to girder? .

That is up to you, you can play it either way. As I understand you can talk between EventGhost and Girder by using the network sender and reciever plugins in EventGhost.

Originally Posted by ybrew

I was surprised to find girder is no longer free and obviously prefer free stuff.

I have never tried Girder, but I know enought about EventGhost to do just about anything I have needed.