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Old 10-10-2006, 02:15 PM
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HdHomeRun - Our Answer to QAM?!

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Any chance we could see support for http://www.silicondust.com/main/inde...od&productId=5 in the production Sage release? It would seem to be a good way of getting around the limitations of QAM tuner support in Windows, and drivers already exist for the Linux packages and soon for some of Sage's windows competitors.

I really like this approach. It gives you the advantages of a card (no IR emitters needed), but also some of the advantages of an STB (remotable locations, not limited by PCI slots, etc...).

It's a good price for this capability and seems pretty simple to integrate.

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Sure looks enticing! Seems like support for SageTV may be on the way!

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The SageTV support is not far away - would you be interested in beta testing?

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Old 10-10-2006, 02:52 PM
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This looks very cool. I'm excited to find out if it will support QAM in Sage although judging from the way it seems to work I would think it would.
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Old 10-10-2006, 02:58 PM
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Seems like there would be a possible way to set it up with the Universal Network Encoder.
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Old 10-10-2006, 03:29 PM
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Wow, if that pans out, i'd buy two
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Old 10-11-2006, 10:18 PM
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Please, Please let this happen. This device sounds awesome! Dual HD QAM tuners via network streaming. The moment a plugin/hack/driver is released for Sage, I'm jumping all over this thing.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:09 AM
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Very interesting.

But to really make it work well, we'd need Guide Data by tuner in Sage.

As it is now I'd have to see if there is another guide from another coverage area that I could use for this.

This is the reason why I gave up on firewire recording.
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Old 10-13-2006, 08:26 AM
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Well, I caved and bought one. The HDhomerun devs seem really dedicated to making their device compatable with any product that wants it so I figure the best way to encourage them was with my money I'll keep people posted how things go.
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:00 PM
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Please everyone go to the forum and state your interest in development of a SageTV drivers. If he realizes that there is a huge market for SageTV, he can spend more resources on that than say, BeyondTV or mediaportal...
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:01 PM
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Very interesting.

But to really make it work well, we'd need Guide Data by tuner in Sage.

As it is now I'd have to see if there is another guide from another coverage area that I could use for this.

This is the reason why I gave up on firewire recording.
why? the built in guide data works fine for me with firewire recording. I don't see why it wouldn't work with this device
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:21 PM
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The problem is that the channel numbers you use on your cable box have no correlation to the actual frequency that the channel is at. So you could still setup the HDhomerun using the EPG data for your digital cable, however, Sage would need to have some table somewhere that would translate the channel number to the freq/pid's that the HDhomerun needs. It's really pretty trivial and shouldn't be any type of a road block.
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:53 PM
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It still needs guide data for your area.

I use two HD boxes so I get the digital versions of HBO and Showtime that look way better than the analog ones.

So if I add one of these boxes it's going to use the same guide data as my two existing cable boxes. But sage will have no clue this new box can't view HBO and Showtime.

So thats why you need Guide data per tuner.

I could use a Guide from a neighboring area IF it matches closely enough. If not, I've got issues.
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Old 10-13-2006, 12:55 PM
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why? the built in guide data works fine for me with firewire recording. I don't see why it wouldn't work with this device
I cant record every channel I pay for via Firewire. Not that the boxes TW gives me actually spit out anything I could record.

So I'd have the firewire connected boxes not able to record any SD or any HD other than the 5 free stations. But using the same guide data as a box that does. And Sage not knowing about any of it.

Makes a big mess.
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Old 10-13-2006, 01:37 PM
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I cant record every channel I pay for via Firewire. Not that the boxes TW gives me actually spit out anything I could record.

So I'd have the firewire connected boxes not able to record any SD or any HD other than the 5 free stations. But using the same guide data as a box that does. And Sage not knowing about any of it.

Makes a big mess.
IF your CC is 5C'ing everyting but the free stations, do you expect them to be sending out everything unencrypted so you can QAM it? Have you tested it with a QAM tuner already, such as a QAM'ed TV? I think your gonna be in the same boat, only being able to tune in a couple free channels.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:22 AM
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IF your CC is 5C'ing everyting but the free stations, do you expect them to be sending out everything unencrypted so you can QAM it? Have you tested it with a QAM tuner already, such as a QAM'ed TV? I think your gonna be in the same boat, only being able to tune in a couple free channels.
You're eaxctly right. HBO, Showtime, Discovery, etc are all 5C'ed. FOX, ABC, NBC, and PBS I can record just fine with my Fusion5 Lite.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:05 PM
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It would appear the beta is getting closer, there is now a link http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1985 to signup.
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Old 10-15-2006, 07:16 PM
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Nice My Hdhomerun should be arriving tommorow so i'll be ready
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:28 PM
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whoa...so it looks like there is actually a beta happening!??!
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Old 10-15-2006, 08:34 PM
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I was over at their site reading the boards and noticed a poll on your favorite front end. Sage was clearly the favorite.

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Old 10-15-2006, 10:27 PM
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I couldn't find that poll for favorite front end, but I would like to put my vote in the hat for Sage. Where was it?
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Old 10-15-2006, 11:18 PM
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