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Old 01-01-2005, 05:27 AM
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Above Normal Priority

ok what is everyone that uses above normal proirity for SageTV doing to make SageTV start with above normal priority
I have wondered since 2.0 early beta why SageTV is not using above normal
SageTV is suppose to be on a dedicated box well then why not use it

but to get to my point
I was really having major issues with VMR9 and the nvidia decoders
and I finally thought of changing the priority
I did this in the past but it had been a while

so I set the priority to above normal
and guess what
perfect picture with no stuttering or skipping or tearing
using pixel adaptive, VMR9, smart deinterlacing, pure video etc....

and perfect

so my question is how can I get SageTV to start with above normal priority
rather than having to set it everytime I open up SageTV or reboot?
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Old 01-01-2005, 05:42 AM
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How do you set above normal priority??

sounds very intresting and best wishes for 2005
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:05 AM
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yeah you too
just open the task manager and right click the SageTV process and
goto set priority
then choose above normal
it will ask if you want to change
and choose yes

and this is still not completely perfect
but the change from you do not have one minute much less 10 seconds with a stutter
to only a rare stutter if anything is amazing to me
(have not tested with liveTV yet, so this may differ)

I still do not understand why they choose normal priority
with SageTV designed to be a stand alone dedicated machine

they have all these other desires to make it so
timeshifting has to be enabled
no software encoding TV tuner cards
yet something that makes such a huge performance increase is not done

WOW
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Old 01-01-2005, 06:28 AM
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ok solved my own problem
and here it is for anyone that wants
first you need to set SageTV to startup no in the detailed setup

then add the SageTV.bat file to the frey technology folder and add the SageTV shortcut included to the startup folder in the start menu

next time you boot up it will start from the task bar with above normal priority

EDIT: OK I thought it started in the taskbar but maybe not
anyone want to help me out here?
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Last edited by kny3twalker; 01-01-2005 at 06:57 AM.
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Old 01-01-2005, 07:33 AM
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Kny how about you just let Sage start the way it used to and have a scheduled task to run this utility which allows you to change running tasks' priorities
http://www.beyondlogic.org/solutions...rocessutil.htm
BTW: are you running the SageTVService?
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Old 01-01-2005, 08:48 AM
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no, not running as service
and this program works but it is picky
it makes me put in my C:\ drive and cannot put it in the SageTV folder (it will not work if I do this)
then I cannot get the stupid DOS window to stop popping up with it

but this what I got
put the process program in your C:\ drive
put the SageTV.bat in the Frey Tech folder
and the SageTV shortcut in the startup menu in the start menu

set SageTV to startup in taskbar
and then with this
it will start with above normal priority in the taskbar

any other ideas???
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Old 01-01-2005, 09:54 AM
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bump???
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Old 01-01-2005, 10:32 AM
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Is that bump a joke?
and when you say taskbar are you really talking about the systray?

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Old 01-01-2005, 10:43 AM
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Oh and here is another cool little app to start an exe with a certain priority:
http://www.valhallalegends.com/adron...ff/prioaff.zip
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Old 01-03-2005, 10:52 AM
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I set my Priority manually to High. I do not use my SageTV System as a dedicated HTPC so it is required to prevent most of the recording problems, but Jeff still needs to fix an issue where recordings will get skipped frames if too many SageTVClients are doing things at the same time and also it is imapcted by the two copies of SageTVClient for my MediaMVPs running on the same BOX (I Make sure these are at normal priority). This will not happen unless you record at Best Quality or greater. SageTV 2.0.20 did not have as many issues with the recordings not being stored correctly. What ever changed in the later releases has made it much less reliable at recording files. Frankly I think that SageTV needs to be more like GBPVR and BeyondTV with a seperate process for doing recordings only that way it can run at High or realtime priority and scheduling and client activity and anything else on the PC will not prevent recordings.

NOTE: I have these problems some times even if nothing else is running and I am not using the PC, just letting SageTV record.

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Old 01-03-2005, 11:25 AM
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Frankly I think that SageTV needs to be more like GBPVR and BeyondTV with a seperate process for doing recordings only that way it can run at High or realtime priority and scheduling and client activity and anything else on the PC will not prevent recordings.
You mean like running the recording engine as a Windows service with the front end items running in their own memory space?
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Old 01-03-2005, 11:57 AM
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jptaz,
Are you running Sage as a service? If you are and you are giving SageTV.exe high priority then that could screw up your recordings. If you aren't running as a service I would recommend doing so and upgrading to the latest beta since it had some threading enhancements done to it.
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:09 PM
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I am running SageTV beta 2.2.2 and the service still has the issue whcih is why I have it running as an application. SageTVService is still running at normal priority so any other application in the system can pre empt it, like the two instances of SageTVClient for the MediaMVPs, or even the SagTV GUI instance.

The other products ONLY have recordings in the service. SageTV performs, scheduling, and client communications in the service so when heavy client activity on the same PC or even on the other two client PCs occur they prevent data from being stored before the buffers are recycled by the encoding card drivers. So I could have 5 clients communicating at the same time (3 on the same PC).

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Old 03-16-2005, 09:34 AM
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I know this is an old thread, but I have a question about it that you all might be able to help with. I don't run a dedicated Sage system, though I do keep other processes down when "Saging". Here's my question. If I change the service to high priority, but keep sagetv at normal priority, will that cause problems? Or should I put both at high priority?

Also, when I try to change priority for service, I get an error saying "The operation could not be completed. Access is denied." Anyone seen this before? I am full (sole) administrator.
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Old 03-16-2005, 10:24 AM
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Are you trying to solve a problem by increasing the priority of the service? Unless it solves a particular problem, I'd leave it where it is.
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Old 03-16-2005, 11:26 AM
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Yeah, I'm trying to get rid of some glitchy-ness in recordings. I'm not as concerned with the client as I am with the recordings (as long as the source is OK, playback should be fine at some point, with nothing else running on the machine at the time, etc.). That's why I want to increase the priority of the service and not necessarily the client.
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Old 03-18-2005, 08:42 AM
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No one has any thoughts/suggestions on this?

I can easily live with changing the priority of both, but it's SO FRUSTRATING that task manager won't let me change the priority of service.
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