Problems since 2.0 was upgraded

[cmaffia]

Having been plagued with problems with the Roslyn card which I returned) I went out and bought a PVR-150 which automatically meant I had to use 2.1 or higher since the PVR-150 isn't supported in 2.0.

I have been having so many issues with SageTV since. To make a long story short, after numerous reinstallations of the OS today and trying fresh installations of every version available including all betas up to 2.2.2, I have come to the realization that there is a problem with these SageTV's support for the PVR-150.

I would get constant freezes 10 seconds after viewing live TV which resulted in 100% CPU cycles and eventually a reboot of Windows XP. This would happen regardless of the decoder. These symptoms would happen even when the Sage decoder was the only decoder installed (the one that comes with SageTV). I would gradually add decoders and test... same results.

I have another SageTV box that has a PVR-250 running 2.2.2. It is the SAME EXACT PC as the other except that it has a PVR 250 card. I have no issues whatsoever with this PC and SageTV

I have already filled out a bug report hoping Frey Tech will address these issues. It is really disheartening that I have to rely on this method of installation.

Is anyone else experiencing this problem?

Update

1) PVR-150/SageTV2.1 and higher - DEFINITELY an issue still with this. I feel it is something that will only be resolved when Frey addresses. I don't have the time nor the energy anymore to wrestle with SageTV and this 150 card.

2) PVR-250/SageTV2.1 and higher Forget my Java/Nielm's Webserver Plugin conflict either. I still had the same problems a day later.. I think now its just a general "Post 2.0" issue. SageTV has some new and nasty bugs. I hope they resolve quickly

3) Why does my other Sage box work so perfectly?? GOT ME!! The only theory I can think of is that box was updated from every version of 2.0 up to 2.2.2. Maybe Some legacy files left over from previous upgrades make it more stable... It's a mystery to me!

For me, I have yet to see the quartz.dll fix any of the above issues

For me, I have yet to see the newer DShowCapture.dll fix any of the above issues

[Boolah]

I've been having problems with my PVR-150MCE as well. My box has three 250MCEs which have been working without any real problems since I started using SageTV (v2.0). I ordered a PVR-150MCE at the end of October and upgraded SageTV from v2.0 to v2.1 in order to support the 150.

I haven't been able to use my 150 at all as every time I try to watch/record TV with the 150, either SageTV crashes or Windows blue screens within seconds of accessing the 150. The 150 works fine in the WinTV2000 app. from Hauppauge. All three of my 250's don't give me any problems at all.

I've tried changing PCI slots for the 150, but that doesn't make a difference. I've tried numerous drivers as well, all without any sucess. Upgrading to SageTV v2.2.2 Beta didn't help either.

I contacted Frey and they sent me an upgraded DLL (DShowCapture.dll) which allows me to now watch/record something on the 150 for about 10 minutes before either SageTV crashes or Windows blue screens. So, for the time being I've disabled my 150 and am hoping Frey comes up with a solution by the time v2.2 goes gold.

[stanger89]

Boolah,

Have you told them the DLL didn't work? Because if you haven't don't expect it to get fixed. Don't assume someone else will tell them, I see that a lot where people say "I've been waiting since version 'x' for this to get fixed" and Frey responds that nobody had reported that problem.

[Boolah]

Originally Posted by stanger89

Have you told them the DLL didn't work? Because if you haven't don't expect it to get fixed. Don't assume someone else will tell them, I see that a lot where people say "I've been waiting since version 'x' for this to get fixed" and Frey responds that nobody had reported that problem.

Yup, they've been told. Even sent them the log files from the beta build of v2.2.2 in the hope they might help track down the problem.

[cmaffia]

Originally Posted by Boolah

Yup, they've been told. Even sent them the log files from the beta build of v2.2.2 in the hope they might help track down the problem.

Boolah - Your PC reacts the same as mine. Freezes then shortly after WinXP Pro bluescreens and reboots EVERY time.

[thestewman]

I had the same problems described above starting with version 2.1.10 and continuing on into versions 2.2.1 and 2.2.2.
Here is how I fixed mine.

Deleted all versions of Java and the Java folders. Appears as you update
Java it does not remove the old versions. I found 3 old versions on my
system. Then I went into the registry and made sure no traces of Java
existed.

Deleted Sage TV and and the Frey Technologies folder. Then I went into
the registry and removed all traces of Sage TV and Frey Technologies.

Downloaded and installed the latest version of Java (JRE 1.4.2_6)
Downloaded and installed Sage TV Beta 2.2.2 (I did not use the old
Properties file and started everything fresh.

It now has been running for 3 or 4 days at a time and I only shut it down
when I have to restart Windows for other reasons. I can run any
of the six decoders I have on the system and the PQ is the best I have
ever had with Sage.

I hope this helps.

[cmaffia]

Originally Posted by thestewman

I had the same problems described above starting with version 2.1.10 and continuing on into versions 2.2.1 and 2.2.2.
Here is how I fixed mine.

Deleted all versions of Java and the Java folders. Appears as you update
Java it does not remove the old versions. I found 3 old versions on my
system. Then I went into the registry and made sure no traces of Java
existed.

Deleted Sage TV and and the Frey Technologies folder. Then I went into
the registry and removed all traces of Sage TV and Frey Technologies.

Downloaded and installed the latest version of Java (JRE 1.4.2_6)
Downloaded and installed Sage TV Beta 2.2.2 (I did not use the old
Properties file and started everything fresh.

It now has been running for 3 or 4 days at a time and I only shut it down
when I have to restart Windows for other reasons. I can run any
of the six decoders I have on the system and the PQ is the best I have
ever had with Sage.

I hope this helps.

Thanks for the suggestions, but as I stated in my original message, all my attempts were fresh installations of OS and SageTV. I am really leaning toward the theory that this is possibly a SageTV/PVR-150 compatibility issue

[mlbdude]

Originally Posted by cmaffia

Thanks for the suggestions, but as I stated in my original message, all my attempts were fresh installations of OS and SageTV. I am really leaning toward the theory that this is possibly a SageTV/PVR-150 compatibility issue

Boy, you have not been having much luck lately . I know it does not sound nice, but I have been using your experiences and staying away from any non-true 250's for awhile until either the drivers mature or Sage matures with them. I hope things get resolved for you soon.

[cmaffia]

Originally Posted by mlbdude

Boy, you have not been having much luck lately . I know it does not sound nice, but I have been using your experiences and staying away from any non-true 250's for awhile until either the drivers mature or Sage matures with them. I hope things get resolved for you soon.

Glad to be the lab rat!
Good news is I get a PVR-250 tomorrow that Frey Tech sent me as a replacement for the Rosyln tragedy!

MLBDUDE - Please upgrade your 1.87 for 2.2 compatibility
I still use your STV exclusively because it runs lean and let's me deviate
slightly from SageTV's default without upsetting the apple cart.
All you would have to do is really fix the recording color issue OR I would just appreciate it if the new 2.2.2 options were accessible! PLEASE CONSIDER IT?

[cmaffia]

Originally Posted by cmaffia

Glad to be the lab rat!
Good news is I get a PVR-250 tomorrow that Frey Tech sent me as a replacement for the Rosyln tragedy!

MLBDUDE - Please upgrade your 1.87 for 2.2 compatibility
I still use your STV exclusively because it runs lean and let's me deviate
slightly from SageTV's default without upsetting the apple cart.
All you would have to do is really fix the recording color issue OR I would just appreciate it if the new 2.2.2 options were accessible! PLEASE CONSIDER IT?

forget about my "fix" Sage is back to square one!!!!
A few recordings and 16 hours later and I am at a loss here!
I give up. I am COMPLETELY convinced that SageTV's support for the PVR-150 is majorly muffed up!

[mlbdude]

I know it would suck, but have you tried using the WinTV app to do some serious recording and scheduling? Maybe it is something up with the 150's drivers? Just reaching here .

[cmaffia]

Originally Posted by mlbdude

I know it would suck, but have you tried using the WinTV app to do some serious recording and scheduling? Maybe it is something up with the 150's drivers? Just reaching here .

Awww dude you didn't say that!! I love Sage!!! I'll just have to wait for the PVR-250 to come and try the 150 when Frey gets it working.

It's not the drivers as WinTV works fine! It's only when used in SageTV

Hey you completely skirted my request to make MLBDUDE2.STV 2.2.2 compatible! :-)

[mlbdude]

I missed that . Mlbdude2 is dead . However, knowing what has changed in 2.2 that old STV should work fine. It will just be missing a couple of the new features.

You should move up to SageMC . It is pretty radical though.

[cmaffia]

Originally Posted by mlbdude

I missed that . Mlbdude2 is dead . However, knowing what has changed in 2.2 that old STV should work fine. It will just be missing a couple of the new features.

You should move up to SageMC . It is pretty radical though.

Would it be alot of work to get the new features integrated in 1.8.7?
I won't push the request anymore BUT if you find the time I know it would
be much appreciated!

Back to the subject: IS ANY OTHER PVR-150 USERS EXPERIENCING THE SAME PROBLEM AS ME?

[Opus4]

Originally Posted by cmaffia

Yuck I messed up the poll.. dont answer first question
Just the other two.. can I edit the poll????

No, but I just discovered that I can -- the poll is down to just the 2 questions you wanted.

- Andy