New NVDVD is out...kinda

[LowTech]

Just by reading the release notes, ver. 1.00.67 would appear to pander strictly to MCE. Don't know if this is significent but maybe there is something to this.

Here's the link...

ftp://download.nvidia.com/Windows/dv...ease_notes.pdf

So far it looks like Sage users are getting less than desirable results IMO.

[mc2wheels]

I'm not sure if it is the latest codec or driver (67.3), but the s-video out is now much better on the 6600GT. I was using component out, but it is limited with respect to resolutions. Now I've got my desktop set to 1024x768 (so that I can use roxio media creator), and my SDTV looks just as good as the component out at 480i (720x480). It seems like the occasional brightness flickers are gone, and there are less frame drops too.

[kny3twalker]

yeah
it works better for me as well
the audio decoder is doing weird stuff though
it seems the decoder was changing the volume rates on its own
and was very quiet to begin with

but does not crash SageTV anymore

[GbrNole]

as long as the decoder is set to spdif then it has always worked.

the biggest problem i have is the same one as i've always had and that is making vmr pixel adaptive setting stick. it wants to fall back to vmr default and then half the time it wont even give me the option to choose pixel adaptive as it wont appear on the list even though i'm using vmr9 to render!!!!

the picture will look better in mce (or mediator et al.) the codec is tailored for renderless playback.

[mc2wheels]

Which one are you using? I am using 1.00.67, and it keeps the setting for me.

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by GbrNole

as long as the decoder is set to spdif then it has always worked.

It always worked for S/PDIF passthrough, but now it works for MPEG audio as well. Before I'd get an error if I tried to play an MPEG file through it (with it set to S/PDIF).

the biggest problem i have is the same one as i've always had and that is making vmr pixel adaptive setting stick. it wants to fall back to vmr default and then half the time it wont even give me the option to choose pixel adaptive as it wont appear on the list even though i'm using vmr9 to render!!!!

It's kind of tricky because you actually have to be using it with VMR9 to even see the pixel adaptive option. For my part it seems to stick just fine.

And in my viewing thus far, I'm quite surprised in that it actually looks better than I remember. All in all, a good release

[GbrNole]

right when i first set it up over again last night i windowed my vmr9 show that was playing, hit the decoder, selected vmr9 pixel adaptive and shazam great picture!

of course i'm a moron though and had to go mess around with vpp and then the dscaler5 codec and after that went back to no vpp and dxva enabled. after this the setting was gone even with vmr9 playing in a window. actually it was to the point that i could see the nvidia icon but i couldn't open it.

probably either needs a restart or a reinstall but regardless i need to reinstall winblows anyway

[korben_dallas]

This decoder looks great. It cleared up the weird artifacts I was getting only in Stargate, VMR9 is working, and DVD's look and sound fantastic.

Wow, and I'm not even using an Nvidia card Well, they'll be getting $20 from me

[Wheemer]

Since this is the New Nvidia decoder thread, I thought I'd post this here. I was having the same problem with this decoder not loading just like the old. I launched C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\ForceWare\nStant Media\nStantMedia.exe and viewed an mpeg with that once. After that the Nvidia decoder bagan to work properly. Not sure what the deal is, but those people that were experiencing this decoder not working in Sage before, give this a try.

[kny3twalker]

try setting the decoder in SageTV to default that you should allow you to open it up gbrnole

and personally I prefer the NvVPP
it looks awesome in both VMR9 and overlay modes

[GbrNole]

oh man i'm glad you just said that!!!! that's the one thing i had forgotten about when i initially set the vmr9 pixel adaptive, sage was set to default!

yep i agree that vpp does look better but through my fanagling i had managed to make sure pixel adaptive was no longer set for any mode and it's quite noticable when it's not set.

thanks again.

[kny3twalker]

pixel adaptive is not an option with NvVPP
with the post processor it does the temporal deinterlacing
it is suppose to be the next evolution in deinterlacing beyond pixel adaptive

[GbrNole]

vpp looks great on my set (didn't realize that pixel adaptive wasn't available through vpp) but my 5900xt has to do vpp in software so hopefully later this week when my 6600gt comes i'll be able to do vpp in hardware and fully reap those benefits you are getting with that 6800

[korben_dallas]

Can someone clarify the difference between the two Nvidia decoders? What does post processing have that the default does not, and vice versa?

[stanger89]

Originally Posted by GbrNole

vpp looks great on my set (didn't realize that pixel adaptive wasn't available through vpp) but my 5900xt has to do vpp in software so hopefully later this week when my 6600gt comes i'll be able to do vpp in hardware and fully reap those benefits you are getting with that 6800

Are you running anything else besides Sage? Something that might be changing it on you?

[tealcomp]

Originally Posted by kny3twalker

that slow down was the reason I am using 67.03
after I installed these instead of 67.22 everything was fine
and not sure why you cannot use NvVPP with DVDs but I get the same thing
black screen

Ah CRAP, so time to install 67.03 now it would seem

[Alig Proudblade]

Err I think the title says it all :P

Chris.

[stanger89]

The best way I can put this...

"PureVideo" isn't a "feature" you can turn on (like deinterlacing) it's a set of features, basically a name for all the stuff the nVidia products do.

To quote nVidia, this is what PureVideo is.

High-Definition Home Theater for Your PC
NVIDIA PureVideo™ technology is a combination of the new GeForce 6 Series GPUs’ high-definition video processor and NVIDIA video decode software that delivers unprecedented picture clarity, smooth video, accurate color, and precise image scaling for all video content on any display.

High-Definition MPEG-2 Hardware Acceleration
Smoothly playback all MPEG-2 video with minimal CPU usage so the PC is free to do other work. Battery-life is extended when watching DVDs while running on battery. MPEG-2 is the standard format for DVDs, is accepted as a format for HD-DVD, and is also used for HD broadcast.

WMV-HD Hardware Acceleration
Playback videos in Microsoft’s Windows Media Video High Definition (WMV-HD) format without skipping frames or losing video detail. Accepted by the HD-DVD consortium as a new HD format, WMV-HD is now part of Windows XP to make it easy for users to edit and save their favorite videos.

High-Quality Real-Time Video Recording
Get full digital video recording functionality without losing data. With NVIDIA PureVideo technology, high-quality recording preserves picture detail while also using minimal space to store videos on the hard drive.

Advanced Spatial Temporal De-Interlacing
Smoothes video and DVD playback on progressive displays to deliver a crisp, clear picture that rivals high-end home theater systems.

3:2 Pull-Down Correction
Recovers the original film format data to provide more accurate video playback and superior picture quality.

Accurate VMR Up-Scaling
Upscale a small video to full screen while recording video in the background. PureVideo delivers the clear, clean image at any display size.

Flicker-Free VMR Down-Scaling
Maintain image detail without any annoying flicker even when scaling down video.

Vibrant Color Temperature Correction
Color temperature correction makes actors’ faces appear natural, rather than washed out and pale, when playing videos on LCD and CRT displays.

LCD Overdrive
Notebook LCD displays can exhibit “ghosting” effects because of the slow response time of liquid crystals. The LCD overdrive feature compensate for this slower response time by overdriving color signals, thereby automatically eliminating ghosting effects.

Adaptable Programmable Video Processor
PureVideo’s programmable technology adapts to new video encoding formats as they are developed to provide a future-proof video solution

The ones we are interested in here are:

• Advanced Spatial Temporal De-Interlacing
  
• 3:2 Pull-Down Correction
  
• Accurate VMR Up-Scaling

The first two are easy, you must be using the newest DVD decoders (1.00.67) and at least the 67.03 Forceware drivers, to use/enable them you select Smart as the Deinterlace control, and Pixel Adaptive as the Deinterlace menthod (you must be using VMR9 AFIAK).

The last one is trickier, since apparently it requires MCE2005, or probaly more specifically (I'm assuming here) it requires running windowless/renderless VMR9, possibly in YUV mixing mode.

[Alig Proudblade]

Ok here goes.... sorry to fire all these at you.

I have a Pentium 3.4 based PC using a PCI-E Gefore 6600 card. The hardware is connected to a 32" LCD TV and a 17" monitor both of which are running at 1280x1024. Im running in Dualview mode.

Im running 67.03 Dets and have NVDVD 1.0.69 installed.

So should I be running VMR, Overlay or Default? At the moment it seems to run most smoothly in Default but im guessing something isnt right there.

What is the difference between NVIDIA video decoder and NVidia Post Processor? I dont really understand which is the correct answer to Current DVD video decoder as they both seem to be valid options......

Im assuming I want the other settings on default?

Also should I be using the same settings in the Video section? I play a lot of Divx stuff too.

Thanks in advance.

Chris.

[kny3twalker]

The first two are easy, you must be using the newest DVD decoders (1.00.67) and at least the 67.03 Forceware drivers, to use/enable them you select Smart as the Deinterlace control, and Pixel Adaptive as the Deinterlace menthod (you must be using VMR9 AFIAK).

are you sure
I was getting a much better picture with overlay than before
it seems to be using the same pure video technology
also you can get the pure video using the NvVPP correct?