MVP Client 1.3.0 (2005/08/16)

[qwijib0]

Originally Posted by gplasky

Sorry. Matt doesn't have that working. The Happague MVP software can do that but all the transcoding is done on the PC. You need a powerful PC from what I understand.

Gerry

Thanks for the info

[Wakecrash]

I tried a lot to fix this problem, looks like problem is now fixed, I downloaded the latest MVP software and replaced Matt's dongle.bin with the one fromHauppauges lates relaese, (not beta) which happens to have an older date.

file date on Matt's is 4/9/05, the one from Hauppauge is 3/22/05.

All has been running steady for 5 days

[Matt]

Originally Posted by Wakecrash

I tried a lot to fix this problem, looks like problem is now fixed, I downloaded the latest MVP software and replaced Matt's dongle.bin with the one fromHauppauges lates relaese, (not beta) which happens to have an older date.

file date on Matt's is 4/9/05, the one from Hauppauge is 3/22/05.

All has been running steady for 5 days

I have no good explanation why this would help, but it's great if it does. Have you seen other improvements with this dongle.bin?

The dongle.bin coming with the MVP Client 1.2.1 is 2.2.22324. While quite old, this has been the most stable one for me so far.

-Matt

[Wakecrash]

No improvements, although watching in task manager I noticed the sage client memory utilization is going from about 270 meg, counts up to just under 490Meg, then start over at about 270 meg. This is nothing new, although system would noramally end up rebooting soon after.

comskip is running, and when comskip start and ends the cpu utization jumps to 100% for a few seconds. never noticed this before

My mem utilzation on the client for the mvp turn off is 58.5 meg and the service is at 35 meg. These are the lowest numbers I have ever seen for these.

[DIBU]

Originally Posted by Wakecrash

No improvements, although watching in task manager I noticed the sage client memory utilization is going from about 270 meg, counts up to just under 490Meg, then start over at about 270 meg. This is nothing new, although system would noramally end up rebooting soon after.

comskip is running, and when comskip start and ends the cpu utization jumps to 100% for a few seconds. never noticed this before

My mem utilzation on the client for the mvp turn off is 58.5 meg and the service is at 35 meg. These are the lowest numbers I have ever seen for these.

Hi i use 3 MVP's and one normal client on my old server. ibm / dualprocessor pentuimII 300MHz. on this server runs also my groupware (inter/intranet) (desknow), also a live streaming web-camera, my mysql-server and a lot more. and all this without problems with the speed or other. it is a 7/24 server it is very silent (no active cooling).

with snapstream or other mediaserver i have 100% cpu, with sage i have (livetv or watching) 25-30% cpu. only the mvp-interface is a little slow, but now problem...i have time

[henk99]

Hi guys

I am happy to say that i have it all working. Found out that i had a wire break in my network cable. Pulled a fresh cable through the wall, and now everything works.
I have a question about the navigating though. I have read all about the lag in the FF/RW function. I have this problem too. Are there any other ways to navigate and have customizable jumps, for say, 20, 30, 40 seconds? I mean can it be set somewhere?
Whenb mapping the buttons i noticed there is a skip forward and a skip forward #2, What is the difference? Also i noticed a time scroll button. When i mapped it, i didn't see anything happening.
I am just trying to find alternatives for doing the (small) time skips, as reaction to that is kinda slow. I just want to skip through sections of a recording. But the 10 second jumps are taking me ages.

Cheers,
Henk99

[nielm]

This is not MVP-specific:

By default, the Skip forward/backward commands skip 10 seconds
The Skip forward #2/backward #2 commands skip 30 seconds

The duration of both of these skips can be altered in the properties file.

Time scroll (in the OriginalV2 based STV's) allows you to quickly move the playback position in the file by using the skip buttons. It is the keyboard/remote equivalent to mouse-clicking on the time bar.

You use it by:

Press Time Scroll (The Time indicator changes color)
Use Skip forward/back to move the curson on the time bar
Use Skip foward#2 to seek to the beginning
Use Skip foward#2 to seek to the end
Once you have the required position, press Time Scroll again to seek the video to that position.

If you send no input for about 5 seconds, or press another command such as Play, time scroll is cancelled.

(this is probably in the documentation somewhere!)

[henk99]

Originally Posted by nielm

This is not MVP-specific:

By default, the Skip forward/backward commands skip 10 seconds
The Skip forward #2/backward #2 commands skip 30 seconds

The duration of both of these skips can be altered in the properties file.

Time scroll (in the OriginalV2 based STV's) allows you to quickly move the playback position in the file by using the skip buttons. It is the keyboard/remote equivalent to mouse-clicking on the time bar.

You use it by:

Press Time Scroll (The Time indicator changes color)
Use Skip forward/back to move the curson on the time bar
Use Skip foward#2 to seek to the beginning
Use Skip foward#2 to seek to the end
Once you have the required position, press Time Scroll again to seek the video to that position.

If you send no input for about 5 seconds, or press another command such as Play, time scroll is cancelled.

(this is probably in the documentation somewhere!)

Thanks Nielm, for your fast reply.

Must i edit this in the client.properties, or in the sage.properties? I am still a bit confused about which settings are being used by both client and server. i noticed some settings are automatically transferred to the client, while others (like the stv) can be different.

[pftg4]

Hi Guys
Thanks Matt for a excellent Plugin took about 20 mins from ripping open the MVP box to it working perfectly it is so much better quality than my server one Quick Q should the screen saver work does not seem to kick in no matter how long i leave it Thanks
Dave

[Alwayslearnin]

Okay, I've been reading through the thread and the information on the download page. I have not purchased or downloaded Sage, so I have not had an opportunity to play with it. These questions are part of my decision tree.

I want to run up to five MediaMVPs at once. I think I understand the installation and setup process, except for the part about the ports. It seemed to list several ports and then added "for one MediaMVP". Is there a list of other ports for the additional MVPs? It seemed to list in the installation guide there were more if there were more than 5.

Also, some here seem to be able to view DVDs on the MVP and others are not, has there been a definitive answer on how to do this? Most DVDs have a stereo track, can't you just use that when playing a real DVD? I assumed most of the issues were with recorded DVDs, but now I'm not so sure.

Based on the folder structure, I can use different STVs for different MVPs (assuming I'm binding per Mac addresses). I believe I will use either SageMC or meekell's STV, but I need to incorporate DigiCasa as well for the security options. But the MVP Client and the STVs are not related, so it should not matter which one I choose, correct?

The four functions that are important to me are Live TV, recorded shows, DVD and music. I get the impression that people are experiencing different levels of satisfaction, but can I play those four through the MVP?

Thanks,
Keith

[mayamaniac]

I finally got an MVP. Hook it up and got it working with SageTV in a matter of minutes, setup was easy enough.

I've been playing with it for last two days and so far, I'm not really satisfied with the performance. The MVP Client plugin does the job, but it's annoyingly slow. And I'm having connection issues too often, like every hour or so. FW/RW commands also works very slow. I'm hoping these annoyances will be resolved with the TCP/IP optimization registry fix from Hauppauge.

Does anyone know exactly what this registry does?

REGEDIT4


[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip\Parameters]
"TcpWindowSize"=dword:000f4240
"Tcp1323Opts"=dword:00000001

Originally Posted by Alwayslearnin

...the MVP Client and the STVs are not related, so it should not matter which one I choose, correct?

Correct. MVP will work with any STV. There is one problem, I read that it does not support the small preview window that a lot of STV were designed for, such as SageMC.

[Crashless]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

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I've been playing with it for last two days and so far, I'm not really satisfied with the performance. The MVP Client plugin does the job, but it's annoyingly slow. And I'm having connection issues too often, like every hour or so. FW/RW commands also works very slow. I'm hoping these annoyances will be resolved with the TCP/IP optimization.

The Meekell STV has some optimizations for the MVP. Especially when playing files, it suppresses the GUI for quick FF/RW commands, and drastically speeds those operations up.

As far as _what_ that reg edit does, I believe that it increases the size of each packet that the server sends, presumavbly increasing the reliability of the MVP. I've never really had issues on this point, mine either works or it doesn't. I have most of my problems when I change stuff in SageTV ie: upgrades. After that I don't have issues. FWIW, I haven't run that regedit because I haven't needed it.

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by Crashless

The Meekell STV has some optimizations for the MVP. Especially when playing files, it suppresses the GUI for quick FF/RW commands, and drastically speeds those operations up.

As far as _what_ that reg edit does, I believe that it increases the size of each packet that the server sends, presumavbly increasing the reliability of the MVP. ...

I've already spent too much time configuring Cayars STV to just the way I wanted it, so I'm not eager to try another STV. My main concern with the registry fix is if will affect other apps in the OS. I guess I can just backup the registry before I try it.

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

I've been playing with it for last two days and so far, I'm not really satisfied with the performance. The MVP Client plugin does the job, but it's annoyingly slow. And I'm having connection issues too often, like every hour or so. FW/RW commands also works very slow.

What's your network setup like? I'm curious because I've got hardware on my server that is defintely no more powerful than what you have and I'm not seeing any performance issues with the MVP Client.
Well, ok maybe very slight delays (under 1 second) when my 3 tuner server is recording all 3 tuners and I'm trying to serve to the MVP.

The only real differences I see is that you're running in service mode, and using Server 2003. I'm not using service mode and am running under XP home w/sp2, oh, I'm not running any STV's, and I'm also still running Sage 2.26 (if it ain't broke, don't fix it)
I would really like to try some of the STV's, but haven't gone down that road yet for many reasons.

[mayamaniac]

Originally Posted by waynedunham

What's your network setup like?

SageTV/win2003 Server and all other computers are connected to a gigabit switch. and the switch is connected to the router/cable modem. Don't think my network is a problem as other SageTV Clients can connected without any problems.

I'm curious because I've got hardware on my server that is defintely no more powerful than what you have and I'm not seeing any performance issues with the MVP Client. Well, ok maybe very slight delays (under 1 second) when my 3 tuner server is recording all 3 tuners and I'm trying to serve to the MVP.

I never thought for a second that my hardware are not fast enough. As mentioned before, i also have multiple Clients connected to the server and all is fine. My slow response time problem is strictly with the MVP.

The only real differences I see is that you're running in service mode, and using Server 2003.

Now this is debatable. I just tried applying the registry fix from hauppauge to see if helps. If not, I will run SageTV in non service mode to see if it makes any difference.

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

SageTV/win2003 Server and all other computers are connected to a gigabit switch. and the switch is connected to the router/cable modem. Don't think my network is a problem as other SageTV Clients can connected without any problems.

Again, very close to my setup. I just recently added the Gigabit switch for speedier PC to PC transfers of large (i.e. Mpegs) file, but didn't have any problem with my MVP on the old 10/100 switch I had before.

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

Now this is debatable. I just tried applying the registry fix from hauppauge to see if helps. If not, I will run SageTV in non service mode to see if it makes any difference.

Let us know what you find. It's looking more and more to me like it's something to do with service mode. The only other thing I could think of is to bump up the priority of the SageMVP client, but don't know if that would work.

[Alwayslearnin]

Originally Posted by mayamaniac

SageTV/win2003 Server and all other computers are connected to a gigabit switch. and the switch is connected to the router/cable modem. Don't think my network is a problem as other SageTV Clients can connected without any problems.

I wonder if it makes a difference since the MVP cannot connect via gigabit, and the rest of clients are?

I will be using a gigabit backbone as well, so I'm curious if this could be an issue.

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by Alwayslearnin

I wonder if it makes a difference since the MVP cannot connect via gigabit, and the rest of clients are?

I will be using a gigabit backbone as well, so I'm curious if this could be an issue.

I'm using a D-Link DGS-1016D 16 port Gigabit switch on my wired home network. I noticed absolutely no difference at all from my previous D-Link DSS 16+ 16 port 10/100 switch on any of my 10/100 equipment. (laptop, MVP, 2 ReplayTV's, Roku Photobridge) The performance increase when transferring files on my 3 desktop computers with gigabit networking was GREAT!

Cable modem and Gigabit switch hook into ports on the 10/100 Router and all my network outlets around the house plug into the Gigabit switch.

So I'd say there shouldn't be any problems using your 10/100 equipment on the gigabit switch. Caveat: of course it depends on the quality and compatability of the switch. That's why all my equipment is from D-Link. Excellant built quality for the price and I've never had any trouble with anything I've bought from them.

[BobPhoenix]

Do you have screen and HDD timeouts set on the PC that has the MVPclient installed? You might try turning them to "always on". Don't know that that will help but it shouldn't hurt.

[waynedunham]

Originally Posted by BobPhoenix

Do you have screen and HDD timeouts set on the PC that has the MVPclient installed? You might try turning them to "always on". Don't know that that will help but it shouldn't hurt.

I've got a screensaver timeout set on my Sage Server running SageMVP and it doesn't affect it. I do notice that whenever I fire up the MVP it will bring the server out of screensaver.

The HDD timeout may be important though. I have mine set to NEVER spin down the HDD's.

Oh I've also got mine set to never go into standby.

SageMVP has worked great for me with these settings.