MCE2005 = Sage 2.0 killer?

[kny3twalker]

of course not

and the distinction is important
and furthermore I do not think I knew was a difference when stating it but now I see it
Cool

[DKT]

Didn't read all of the long notes, but does this indicate that we have already met the 85%?

http://www.antennasdirect.com/

"84.69% of the U.S. TV households are in markets with five or more DTV stations"

[ruel]

Originally Posted by SHS

They don't need buy a new Digital TV set just any External Digital Tuner but have look at cost of thing.

USDTV has their boxes which are being sold as either digital tuner-only boxes for receiving local terrestrial TV broadcasts or, if available in your local broadcast market area, for receiving USDTV over-the-air terrestrial multichannel "cable-like" subscription TV. I would also expect to eventually see digital tuners in VCRs or tivo-type recorder boxes (that are compliant with digital broadcast content protection rules). those would take care of a lot of TV sets that aren't hooked up to cable and would help (if people buy them) towards meeting the requirement that 85% of homes in the US be actually capable of receiving over-the-air terrestrial digital TV broadcasts.

ruel

[BobPhoenix]

My 2cent worth:

Just to let you know Copy Protection can affect SDTV. I have a DVR produced by Toshiba HardDrive/DVD-ROM/-R/-RW that will not record HBO/CineMAX from MediaCOM Cable because of the copy protection flag. I can record to the Hard Drive and Transfer them to DVD-RAM disks in DVD-VR format but once it is transferred from the Hard Drive you can't move it anywhere else. Also you cannot transfer it to DVD-+R/RW in DVD-Video (retail DVD) format either. This is why I got a PC-PVR in the first place. It is possible but I hope not likely that Frey may be forced to implement the same protection in SageTV. On the positive side if you buy a DVR that records to the +R/RW format only you can get around it since +R doesn't support the copy protection. I had a +R format one (Philips) but it would randomly drop recordings or record over the top of the previous one so I got rid of it in favor of the Toshiba only to find the HBO/CineMAX copy protection flag problem. I haven't actually made a DVD from a Sage recording yet still learning about the program.

BobP.

[erics]

As promised... adding to my list of MCE2k5 dislikes:

- No Always Time-shifting:
MCE 2k5 flushes it's LiveTV buffer if you commence playback of a prerecorded program or Music. Yes, you CAN record while simultaneously Watching a previous recording or listening to music, but the Live buffer gets automatically flushed if you don't explicitly commence a recording before beginning playback of other media. Retarded!

note: I have 2 tuners in my system, but currently only 1 is configured. The behavior I described above may be different if the 2nd tuner was active.

- Explicitly starting a recording of LiveTV flushes everything in the buffer BEFORE starting the recording:
Meaning, let's say you've got 15 minutes of Smallville cached in your live buffer. You decide you want to go ahead and explicitly record the entire show and watch it later. Well, pressing REC 15 minutes into the show will FLUSH the damn buffer and start recording from this instant instead of grabbing everything from the beginning. THIS IS EXTREMELY RETARDED!!!!! The start of the show is already cached! Why in the hell should starting a recording dump everything already cached??? This may be a configuration that can be changed in MCE... you never know... I found something new with its Season Pass/Series functionality that changed the core nature of SP/Series. So I guess you never know since I'm still learning MCE. But at present it seems this is how MCE functions when a single tuner is configured. I consider this is a HUGE STRIKE against MCE. I can get over the not Always Timeshifting thing... not a huge deal to me... but not being able to record content that's already in the buffer is absolutely inexcusable! I believe, but I'm not positive, the BTV is/was like this...

[salsbst]

Originally Posted by DKT

Didn't read all of the long notes, but does this indicate that we have already met the 85%?

http://www.antennasdirect.com/

"84.69% of the U.S. TV households are in markets with five or more DTV stations"

People who live in apartment buildings are pretty much out of luck when it comes to UHF and satellite reception. While we may be "in the market", we are mostly unable to tune either of them.