comskip not showing comercials

[Doubledose]

Trying to figure out why when I record a show, it shows comskip has run because it give me an option to delete comskip files when you open up that program to watch it, but there are no marked commercials. But if I hit the delete comskip files in the same window and then hit run comskip manually, it then selects and shows commercial breaks in the bar. According to the log file both show the same ini and exe file and location bing used.
Anyone have any idea why when run after a recording it does not show the commercial breaks, but after a delete and a manual run it does?
Thanks
Wayne

[TGsell]

I have a similar issue however it only happens maybe 10% of the time. I did wind up getting the developer version since it's needed for h.264 files and seemed to work better for OTA files anyway. I am tempted to use the log file and tuning guidance to play around and get it to grab commercials I know it misses every night. In your case the log files might be worth looking at.

[sic0048]

I just changed SageTV servers and I see this some on the new server. However most of those recordings are the Olympics right now and watching the recording confirms that many times they aren't actually showing a logo. It's actually pretty strange.

I know I have had the developer version previously, but I think I probably downloaded the regular version. I should probably go back and copy all my old comskip files from the old server and see if that doesn't help.

[Doubledose]

See attached pictures of the log files. As stated run by comskip and manual run. Both are using the exact same comskip and the ini file that I have. So what makes the difference with sage starting it vrs a manual starting of it. In all recordings after sage runs it, it shows the CS symbol, but no breaks in the time line and when I open up a program it shows the delete comskip button. So sage has done a little and then stopped for what ever reason. I have tried one half hour shows and one hour shows and that makes no difference. And if I point comship to my c:/ comskip file and ini I get the same thing. I was experimenting with individual show ini on this one in the pictures.
Thanks
Wayne

[CptKirk]

The Comskip Playback is what reads the Comskip edl/txt files and marks the commercials on the bar.

Maybe do a plugin uninstall of Comskip Playback, reboot, install Comskip Playback to see if that can 'reset' it?

[sic0048]

I can confirm that using the pay version of Comskip fixed my issues. Of course that fixed any new recordings that were being scanned by Comskip. I also had to go back and delete the Comskip files for shows that were scanned using the free version and therefore didn't "find" and commercials. This allowed the pay version to rescan those videos and "find" the commercials correctly. I believe all my files are back to having a good Comskip file associated with it.

[Doubledose]

Originally Posted by CptKirk

The Comskip Playback is what reads the Comskip edl/txt files and marks the commercials on the bar.

Maybe do a plugin uninstall of Comskip Playback, reboot, install Comskip Playback to see if that can 'reset' it?

I uninstalled all 4 associated plugins and rebooted the machine and then reinstalled all of them and that made no difference.

I can confirm that using the pay version of Comskip fixed my issues

I also run the donators version of comskip. I was running 82_007, so I installed 82_010 and that made no difference.

It appears that comskip starts on all of the recorded programs and stops for what ever reason. The log files are only 10-15 kb
If I run manually the log files are up in 120 kb or so for 1/2 hr show and there is a whole lot more data in the manual run comskip log.
I don't know what logs to look at and see if I can tell where or what is stopping it.
Thanks
Wayne

[Doubledose]

I don't know if this will post, but here is a log file on a show that comskip started and looks like it did not complete

################################################################
Generated using donator Comskip 0.82.010
Time at start of run:
Thu Feb 10 13:00:01 2022
################################################################
Mpeg: D:\Sageshows-1\GMA3WhatYouNeedtoKnow-S02E362-1559268-0.mpg
Exe C:\Comskip\comskip.exe
Logo: D:\Sageshows-1\GMA3WhatYouNeedtoKnow-S02E362-1559268-0.logo.txt
Ini: C:\Comskip\comskip.ini

Detection Methods to be used:
1) Black Frame
2) Logo - Give up after 2000 seconds
3) Resolution Change
4) Aspect Ratio


ComSkip throttles back from -0001 to -0001.
The time is now 1300 so it's full speed ahead!

Settings
--------
[Main Settings]
;the sum of the values for which kind of frames comskip will consider as possible cutpoints: 1=uniform (black or any other color) frame, 2=logo, 4=scene change, 8=resolution change, 16=closed captions, 32=aspect ration, 64=silence, 255=all.
detect_method=43
;Set to 10 to show a lot of extra info, level 5 is also OK, set to 0 to disable
verbose=10
;Frame not black if any of the pixels of the frame has a brightness greater than this (scale 0 to 255)
max_brightness=60
maxbright=1
;Frame not pure black if a small number of the pixels of the frame has a brightness greater than this. To decide if the frame is truly black, comskip will also check average brightness (scale 0 to 255)
test_brightness=40
;
max_avg_brightness=25
;
max_commercialbreak=600
;
min_commercialbreak=25
;
max_commercial_size=125
;
min_commercial_size=4
;
min_show_segment_length=250
;
max_volume=500
;
max_silence=100
;
non_uniformity=500
[Detailed Settings]
min_silence=12
remove_silent_segments=0
noise_level=5
brightness_jump=200
fps=1
validate_silence=1
validate_uniform=1
validate_scenechange=1
global_threshold=1.05
disable_heuristics=4
cut_on_ac_change=1
[CPU Load Reduction]
thread_count=4
hardware_decode=0
play_nice_start=-1
play_nice_end=-1
play_nice_sleep=2
[Input Correction]
max_repair_size=200
ms_audio_delay=5
volume_slip=40
lowres=0
skip_b_frames=0
[Aspect Ratio]
ar_delta=0.08
cut_on_ar_change=1
[Global Removes]
padding=0
remove_before=0
remove_after=0
added_recording=14
delete_show_after_last_commercial=0
delete_show_before_first_commercial=0
delete_show_before_or_after_current=0
delete_block_after_commercial=0
min_commercial_break_at_start_or_end=39
always_keep_first_seconds=120
always_keep_last_seconds=120
[USA Specific]
intelligent_brightness=0
black_percentile=0.0076
uniform_percentile=0.003
score_percentile=0.71
[Main Scoring]
length_strict_modifier=3
length_nonstrict_modifier=1.5
combined_length_strict_modifier=2
combined_length_nonstrict_modifier=1.25
ar_wrong_modifier=2
ac_wrong_modifier=1
excessive_length_modifier=0.01
dark_block_modifier=0.3
min_schange_modifier=0.5
max_schange_modifier=2
logo_present_modifier=0.01
punish_no_logo=1
[Detailed Scoring]
punish=0
reward=0
punish_threshold=1.3
punish_modifier=2
reward_modifier=0.5
[Logo Finding]
border=10
give_up_logo_search=2000
delay_logo_search=0
logo_max_percentage_of_screen=0.12
ticker_tape=0
ticker_tape_percentage=0
top_ticker_tape=0
top_ticker_tape_percentage=0
ignore_side=0
ignore_left_side=0
ignore_right_side=0
subtitles=0
logo_at_bottom=0
logo_threshold=0.75
logo_percentage_threshold=0.25
logo_filter=0
aggressive_logo_rejection=0
edge_level_threshold=5
edge_radius=2
edge_weight=10
edge_step=1
num_logo_buffers=50
use_existing_logo_file=1
two_pass_logo=1
[Logo Interpretation]
connect_blocks_with_logo=1
logo_percentile=0.92
logo_fraction=0.4
shrink_logo=5
shrink_logo_tail=0
before_logo=0
after_logo=0
where_logo=0
min_black_frames_for_break=1
[Closed Captioning]
ccCheck=0
cc_commercial_type_modifier=4
cc_wrong_type_modifier=2
cc_correct_type_modifier=0.75
[Live TV]
live_tv=0
live_tv_retries=4
require_div5=0
div5_tolerance=-1
incommercial_frames=1000
[Output Control]
output_default=1
output_chapters=0
output_plist_cutlist=0
output_zoomplayer_cutlist=0
output_zoomplayer_chapter=0
output_scf=0
output_vcf=0
output_vdr=0
output_projectx=0
output_avisynth=0
output_videoredo=0
output_videoredo3=0
videoredo_offset=2
output_btv=0
output_edl=1
output_live=0
edl_offset=0
timeline_repair=1
edl_skip_field=0
output_edlp=0
output_bsplayer=0
output_edlx=0
output_cuttermaran=0
output_mpeg2schnitt=0
output_womble=0
output_mls=0
output_mpgtx=0
output_dvrmstb=0
output_dvrcut=0
output_ipodchap=0
output_framearray=0
output_debugwindow=0
output_tuning=0
output_training=0
output_false=0
output_aspect=0
output_demux=0
output_data=0
output_srt=0
output_smi=0
output_timing=0
output_incommercial=0
output_ffmeta=0
output_ffsplit=0
delete_logo_file=0
output_mkvtoolnix=0
cutscene_frame=0
cutscene_threshold=10
windowtitle="Comskip - %s"
cuttermaran_options="cut="true" unattended="true" muxResult="false" snapToCutPoints="true" closeApp="true""
mpeg2schnitt_options="mpeg2schnitt.exe /S /E /R25 /Z %2 %1"
avisynth_options="LoadPlugin("MPEG2Dec3.dll") \nMPEG2Source("%s")\n"
dvrcut_options="dvrcut "%s.dvr-ms" "%s_clean.dvr-ms" "
[Sage Workarounds]
sage_framenumber_bug=0
sage_minute_bug=0
enable_mencoder_pts=0

Input #0, mpeg, from 'D:\Sageshows-1\GMA3WhatYouNeedtoKnow-S02E362-1559268-0.mpg':
Duration: 00:00:01.15, start: 0.931778, bitrate: 3648 kb/s
Stream #0:0[0x80]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5.1(side), fltp, 384 kb/s
Stream #0:1[0x1e0]: Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv, bt709, progressive), 1280x720 [SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], Closed Captions, 59.94 fps, 59.94 tbr, 90k tbn, 119.88 tbc
Stream #0:2[0x81]: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 96 kb/s (visual impaired)
Frame Rate set to 59.940 f/s

Initial audio pts = 0.000
Format changed to [1280 : 720]
Frame: 1 Ratio: 141.00 MinY: 358 MaxY: 362 MinX: 358 MaxX: 922
Frame: 1 Channels: 6
Frame 2 (0.000s) - Black frame with brightness of 20,uniform of 11 and volume of 1948279909
Resizing scene change array to accomodate 2000 frames.
Frame 3 (0.017s) - Black frame with brightness of 20,uniform of 104 and volume of -1
Frame 4 (0.033s) - Black frame with brightness of 21,uniform of 203 and volume of -1
Frame 5 (0.050s) - Black frame with brightness of 23,uniform of 435 and volume of -1
Frame 6 (0.067s) - Black frame with brightness of 24,uniform of 644 and volume of -1
[ac3 @ 0cf40900] incomplete frame
[mpeg2video @ 0b78cc80] ac-tex damaged at 77 0
[mpeg2video @ 0b78cc80] Warning MVs not available

Parsed 30 video frames and 30 audio frames at 750.00 fps

Maximum Volume found is 0
Finished scanning file. Starting to build Commercial List.
Vol : #Frames
Calculated silence level = 0
Vol : #Frames
Calculated silence level = 0
Vol : #Frames
Calculated silence level = 0
Vol : #Frames
Calculated silence level = 0
Vol : #Frames
Calculated silence level = 0
Logo Histogram - 6.89655
0.000 - 29 - 0.96667 *********************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************
0.050 - 0 - 0.96667
0.100 - 0 - 0.96667
0.150 - 0 - 0.96667
0.200 - 0 - 0.96667
0.250 - 0 - 0.96667
0.300 - 0 - 0.96667
0.350 - 0 - 0.96667
0.400 - 0 - 0.96667
0.450 - 0 - 0.96667
0.500 - 0 - 0.96667
0.550 - 0 - 0.96667
0.600 - 0 - 0.96667
0.650 - 0 - 0.96667
0.700 - 0 - 0.96667
0.750 - 0 - 0.96667
0.800 - 0 - 0.96667
0.850 - 0 - 0.96667
0.900 - 0 - 0.96667
0.950 - 0 - 0.96667
Set Logo Quality = 0.77500

Not enough or too much logo's found (0.00), disabling the use of Logo detection
The last ar cblock wasn't closed. Now closing.


After Sorting - 7
--------------
Audio channels 6 found on 30 frames totalling 100.0%

Printing AC cblock list
-----------------------------------------
Block: 0 Start: 1 End: 30 audio channels: 6 Length: 0:00:00.46
The last ar cblock wasn't closed. Now closing.

Printing AR cblock list before cleaning
-----------------------------------------
Block: 0 Start: 1 End: 30 AR_R: 0.00 Length: 0:00:00.46, [1280x 720] minX=358, minY=358, maxX=922, maxY=362


After Sorting - 129
--------------
Aspect Ratio 1.78 found on 15 frames totalling 100.0%


After Sorting - 1
--------------

Printing AR cblock list
-----------------------------------------
Block: 0 Start: 1 End: 30 AR_R: 0.00 Length: 0:00:00.46, [1280x 720] minX=358, minY=358, maxX=922, maxY=362
Distribution of Black Frame cutting: 2 positive and 0 negative, ratio is 9.9900
Confidence of Black Frame cutting: 0 out of 0 are strict, too low
Black Frame cutting too low
Distribution of Scene Change cutting: 0 positive and 0 negative, ratio is 9.9900
Confidence of Scene Change cutting: 0 out of 0 are strict, too low
Distribution of Uniform Frame cutting: 0 positive and 0 negative, ratio is 9.9900
Confidence of Uniform Frame cutting: 0 out of 0 are strict, too low
Black Frame List
---------------------------
Black Frame Count = 6
nr frame pts bright uniform volume cause dimcount bright type
0 2 0.017 20 11 0 b 0 0 B
1 3 0.033 20 104 0 b 0 0 P
2 4 0.050 21 203 0 b 0 0 B
3 5 0.067 23 435 0 b 23 0 P
4 6 0.083 24 644 0 b 4419 0 B
-----------------------------
5 30 0.467 0 0 0 br 0 0 P

Fuzzy scoring of the blocks
---------------------------
Threshold used - 1.0500 After rounding - 1.0600


---------------------
Initial Commercial List
---------------------
No change

Logo fraction: 0.0000 Logo disabled
Maximum volume found: 0
Average volume: 0
Sound threshold: 500
Silence threshold: 100
Minimum volume found: 0
Average frames with silence: 0
Black threshold: 25
Minimum brightness found: 20
Minimum bright pixels found: 0
Minimum dim level found: 0
Average brightness: 3758
Uniformity level: 500
Average non uniformity: 1525
Maximum gap between logo's: -1
Suggested logo_threshold: 0.7750
Suggested shrink_logo: 0.00
Max commercial size found: -1
Dominant aspect ratio: 0.0000
Score threshold: 1.0600
Framerate: 59.940
Average framerate: 62.007
Total commercial length: 0:00:00.00
Cut codes:
F: scene c: change
A: aspect t: cutscene
E: exceeds l: logo
L: logo v: volume
B: bright s: scene_change
C: combined a: aspect_ratio
N: nonstrict u: uniform_frame
S: strict b: black_frame
r: resolution
----------------------------------------------------
Block list after weighing
----------------------------------------------------
# sbf bs be fs fe ts te len sc scr cmb ar cut bri logo vol sil corr stdev cc
0:+ 14 0 14 1 30 0.00s 0.47s 0.47s 1.00 7.20 0 0.00 7 { br 3633- 0.00 00 00 0.000 363

30 Frames Processed
################################################################
Time at end of run:
Thu Feb 10 13:00:04 2022
################################################################

[Doubledose]

I think I have my problem solved. I downloaded a cpu monitor and was watching the core and thread use as comskip worked its magic. When I done a manual comskip the cpu would see 4 cores ( I have the threads set to 4 ) spike up while comskip was working. But when sage initiated the comskip, the cores would not show hardly anything. So after looking thru the commercial detector plugin several times and trying different things. I disabled Start comskip as soon as recording starts and now everything seems to be working. I don't know what the default setting is and I don't remember if I changed it after the new install and forgot it. But any how this seems to be working ok now after several recordings thru the night.
Thanks for the help and ideas
Wayne

[TGsell]

Good point -- there seem to be at least two places this setting can be modified 1) installed plugin, and 2) detailed settings, and perhaps a 3rd in the .ini file for Comskip. Mine were set differently for 1 and 2 which is not likely a good thing. I changed it back to 'false' as you did and will see if it behaves better. thanks