SageTV Community  

Go Back   SageTV Community > Hardware Support > Hardware Support
Forum Rules FAQs Community Downloads Today's Posts Search

Notices

Hardware Support Discussions related to using various hardware setups with SageTV products. Anything relating to capture cards, remotes, infrared receivers/transmitters, system compatibility or other hardware related problems or suggestions should be posted here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-28-2020, 10:34 AM
timg11's Avatar
timg11 timg11 is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 472
Cheap HDMI Video Capture devices - any use with SageTV?

There has been a recent influx of low cost Chinese HDMI video capture devices that have been mentioned by hardware aficionados on social media.

Has anyone tried these? They claim to support UVC, for what it's worth.
Any applicability to SageTV?


__________________
HD300 extender with (2020 New Build) SageTV 64 bit V9.2.2.903 (service mode), Running on Windows 10 (64 bit), Intel Core i7-10700K CPU, 16G RAM, GIGABYTE Z490 UD motherboard. NVidia GTX1650 Super; Viewsonic LCD on one output and Mitsubishi WD57734 HDTV via DVI/HDMI on other output. HDHomeRun HDHR5-4US tuner, Hauppauge "Siena" 1512 HD-PVR2 connected to Cisco Cable modem from Spectrum, tuned with USB-UIRT.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-29-2020, 01:49 PM
pjpjpjpj pjpjpjpj is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,164
I posted the same thing not too long ago.
https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66293

You can read that thread, but in general it appears the answer is likely no. The one I got works great standalone to capture HDMI into a file but Sage won't see it as a tuner (if that's your idea).

Also see my OP in that link about the thread here years ago when Chromecast was new, about how to get HDMI into Sage in a generic channel. A little searching of the word Chromecast might find it if you are interested.
__________________
Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network
Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such...
Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM.
Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic).
Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-03-2020, 09:57 PM
jpwegas jpwegas is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 502
Quote:
Originally Posted by timg11 View Post
There has been a recent influx of low cost Chinese HDMI video capture devices that have been mentioned by hardware aficionados on social media.

Has anyone tried these? They claim to support UVC, for what it's worth.
Any applicability to SageTV?
You might be able to use this with OpenDCT with the Generic Pipe Capture Device to capture data from this device from an STB or similar. See https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63823

--John
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-09-2020, 09:04 AM
pjpjpjpj pjpjpjpj is offline
Sage Icon
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,164
Quote:
Originally Posted by jpwegas View Post
You might be able to use this with OpenDCT with the Generic Pipe Capture Device to capture data from this device from an STB or similar. See https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63823

--John
I was told (in the thread I linked above) that OpenDCT is for network and not for a USB port.

However, an open-ended (not discussed) question in my thread was whether that USB stream could be sent through the network to another destination (NAS?) such that it would then be "in the network" rather than on the server itself, and then be grabbed from there by OpenDCT.
__________________
Server: AMD Athlon II x4 635 2.9GHz, 8 Gb RAM, Win 10 x64, Java 8, Gigabit network
Drives: Several TB of internal SATA and external USB drives, no NAS or RAID or such...
Software: SageTV v9x64, stock STV with ADM.
Tuners: 4 tuners via (2) HDHomeruns (100% OTA, DIY antennas in the attic).
Clients: Several HD300s, HD200s, even an old HD100, all on wired LAN. Latest firmware for each.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-09-2020, 10:23 AM
Zogg's Avatar
Zogg Zogg is offline
Sage Aficionado
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 428
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj View Post
I was told (in the thread I linked above) that OpenDCT is for network and not for a USB port.

However, an open-ended (not discussed) question in my thread was whether that USB stream could be sent through the network to another destination (NAS?) such that it would then be "in the network" rather than on the server itself, and then be grabbed from there by OpenDCT.
VLC and ffmpeg could possibly capture from the device and stream over the network to OpenDCT. You could also use localhost (127.0.0.1) to "stream" it on the same system, but it might be a resource hog. I bet it would work though.

You'd just have to script it all up or use something like EventGhost to watch for a trigger and then kick off the capture and streaming (and channel tuning if need be).
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-09-2020, 11:21 AM
jpwegas jpwegas is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 502
Quote:
Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj View Post
I was told (in the thread I linked above) that OpenDCT is for network and not for a USB port.
OpenDCT supports a few different modes. It can stream over the network from other devices like the HDHR Primes, but it also has an option to read from a local a pipe. So if the USB device was separately set up to stream to a pipe, OpenDCT could read from that.

Quote:
Originally Posted by pjpjpjpj View Post
However, an open-ended (not discussed) question in my thread was whether that USB stream could be sent through the network to another destination (NAS?) such that it would then be "in the network" rather than on the server itself, and then be grabbed from there by OpenDCT.
I don't think you need to do all those steps. You can set up the USB device on the Sage host (or another host - OpenDCT does not have to run on the same host as Sage), set up a OpenDCT using the Generic Pipe Capture Device to start the USB capture device to write to the pipe and OpenDCT to read from the stream.

--John
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-09-2020, 11:33 AM
jpwegas jpwegas is offline
Sage Expert
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 502
Here's an example OpenDCT config using the Raw consumer (not the Pipe consumer, but it would be similar) (taken from this post: https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/sho...3&postcount=60)

Code:
sagetv.device.<unique_id>.consumer=opendct.consumer.RawSageTVConsumerImpl
sagetv.device.<unique_id>.custom_channels=3000
sagetv.device.<unique_id>.fast_network_encoder_switch=false
sagetv.device.<unique_id>.streaming_executable=c\:\\\\ffmpeg\\ffmpeg.exe -f lavfi -i anullsrc -i http\://username\asswword@serverip\:serverport/h264/cameraOrGroupShortName/temp.ts -f mpegts -codec\:a aac -
sagetv.device.<unique_id>.tuning_delay_ms=0
For the USB device you mention you would change the streaming_executable command to run the executable that starts the capture from the USB device and outputs to the standard output.

OpenDCT is very flexible. If you have a command that generates an A/V stream (whether remote URL, remote/local network, local file, local device, whatever) you can get it into OpenDCT and use it with Sage.

--John

Last edited by jpwegas; 07-09-2020 at 11:37 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Generic HDMI capture devices pjpjpjpj Hardware Support 11 03-11-2020 07:09 PM
Magewell HDMI Capture Devices KryptoNyte Hardware Support 24 03-31-2018 01:59 PM
Good cheap (USB) s-video capture device for SD STB from Foxtel antplugger SageTV Australia/New Zealand 1 07-31-2010 09:31 PM
No Video Capture Devices Found mike1961 Hardware Support 6 01-23-2007 09:12 PM
No video capture devices found pvr150 SageTV v6 obperryo SageTV Linux 1 01-08-2007 10:01 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:23 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright 2003-2005 SageTV, LLC. All rights reserved.