ATSC 3.0 Tuners?

[wayner]

It is disappointing that there don't appear to have been any ATSC 3.0 tuners announced at CES this year.

However SiliconDust, makers of the HDHR, do appear to have a placeholder web page at: https://www.silicondust.com/about/in...ee-antenna_tv/

It would be nice to see some tuners become available so that we can start capturing OTA ATSC 3.0 in SageTV.

edit - I did find a tuner that has been around since June. But you don't appear able to order it:

https://www.geniatech.com/product/a683/
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/06...-usb-tv-tuner/

[SHS]

Originally Posted by wayner

It is disappointing that there don't appear to have been any ATSC 3.0 tuners announced at CES this year.

However SiliconDust, makers of the HDHR, do appear to have a placeholder web page at: https://www.silicondust.com/about/in...ee-antenna_tv/

It would be nice to see some tuners become available so that we can start capturing OTA ATSC 3.0 in SageTV.

edit - I did find a tuner that has been around since June. But you don't appear able to order it:

https://www.geniatech.com/product/a683/
https://www.cnx-software.com/2019/06...-usb-tv-tuner/

There are ATSC 3.0 tuners but unless you got 1.5k in your back pocket there point in buy one and fact that Advanced Television Systems Committee just give the go ahead to start building tuner we should see USB and Set-top box in next 6 months.
Just keep eye out on CordCuttersNews and Antenna Man and there should at lease 60+ television station markets airing by the end of 2020.

[Galaxysurfer]

I talked to Hauppauge support. They have added live chat as of 6 months ago. I asked my agent who told me they are introducing products at 2021 CEC show.

[wayner]

I wonder about Silicon Dust as they make the HDHR. I wonder if/when they will have an ATSC 3.0 version of the HDHR.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by wayner

I wonder about Silicon Dust as they make the HDHR. I wonder if/when they will have an ATSC 3.0 version of the HDHR.

I'm sure they will next year

[wayner]

By next year you mean 2021? I would hope we would have devices available before that.

[Tiki]

Originally Posted by wayner

By next year you mean 2021? I would hope we would have devices available before that.

What’s the rush? To me ATSC3.0 for TV is a lot like 5g for phones - it’s interesting to read about, but Extremely premature for most consumers to think about buying products. Might make sense in a couple years.

Most networks aren’t broadcasting atsc3.0 yet. Most TVs don’t have atsc3.0 tuners built in. There are no free (government sponsored) or cheap external adapters that you can use with an older tv. I think this will be a very slow transition.

Similarly, 5g cell networks are extremely limited in coverage, the first generation of equipment is not significantly faster than 4gLTE, power efficiency and battery life are poor,... Right now you are much better off with a 4g phone. But no doubt 5g will probably gain parity with 4g by end of this year and be noticeably better by end of 2021.

[wayner]

Why shouldn't we have ATSC 3.0 as it give us 4K in OTA? Netflix has had 4K for over five years, I have had some cable content in 4K for several years. Pretty much any TV you buy is 4K.

Think back to 15-20 years ago when HD started. The best place to get HD in the early years was OTA. Now OTA is the last place getting upgraded to the next higher resolution.

4K for OTA is not as bleeding edge as 5G for phones.

[wnjj]

Originally Posted by wayner

Why shouldn't we have ATSC 3.0 as it give us 4K in OTA? Netflix has had 4K for over five years, I have had some cable content in 4K for several years. Pretty much any TV you buy is 4K.

Think back to 15-20 years ago when HD started. The best place to get HD in the early years was OTA. Now OTA is the last place getting upgraded to the next higher resolution.

4K for OTA is not as bleeding edge as 5G for phones.

When OTA first went digital is wasn't really about improving the quality as it was about freeing broadcast frequency space for other uses. Getting a better quality picture was a side effect.

Perhaps I'm a TV Luddite (still only have 720p TV's) or maybe that my vision couldn't even tell the difference but personally I don't see a good reason to uproot a standard. It means broadcasters have to replace equipment in the name of a higher res picture with no real return for them (like more channel space). It's one thing for Netflix who can just transmit a different file format over the existing infrastructure.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by wnjj

When OTA first went digital is wasn't really about improving the quality as it was about freeing broadcast frequency space for other uses. Getting a better quality picture was a side effect.

Perhaps I'm a TV Luddite (still only have 720p TV's) or maybe that my vision couldn't even tell the difference but personally I don't see a good reason to uproot a standard. It means broadcasters have to replace equipment in the name of a higher res picture with no real return for them (like more channel space). It's one thing for Netflix who can just transmit a different file format over the existing infrastructure.

LoL you must still be on 32" then

[SHS]

Originally Posted by wayner

4K for OTA is not as bleeding edge as 5G for phones.

On May God Pleases for love god don't tell me you think 5G bleeding edge as turn out to be more of a joke that only work going in major metropolis city just nothing but a bunch marketing hype as there way tell with all conflicting stories from review.
Will I see 5G haha that must likely be 10/15 years from now as T-Mobile is joke in my town and AT&T Towers are much further away.
4k OTA is much more bleeding edge as it get full min 7 to high 14 day EPG + Photo and many other detail I get it before 5G will ever show up here LoL even where I live at in the middle of the boonies.
And there be none of this 480i/1080i it supposed be all progressive video signal

[wnjj]

Originally Posted by SHS

LoL you must still be on 32" then

32" bedroom, 52" living room

[SHS]

Originally Posted by wnjj

32" bedroom, 52" living room

You 52" has be 1080 I don't recall there making any that big as 720p only display.

[wnjj]

Originally Posted by SHS

You 52" has be 1080 I don't recall there making any that big as 720p only display.

Nope. 720p DLP projection.

http://support.jvc.com/consumer/prod...lId=MODL027718

Bought in 2006...lol.

I did say I have low standards to meet.

[SHS]

Originally Posted by wnjj

Nope. 720p DLP projection.

http://support.jvc.com/consumer/prod...lId=MODL027718

Bought in 2006...lol.

I did say I have low standards to meet.

Oh that not what I was thinking