Is there an innocuous way to test a sage/sagex URL?

[wayner]

I have written an IP driver for SageTV for my Control4 Home Automation system that uses the same URL calls as used by the SageTV Web Remote Control. So

http://sage:frey@192.168.1.99:7070/sage/SageCommand?context=001d6a4cf499&command=Play

will be the same as pressing the Play key on the remote.

But there are a lot of fields to be entered by the user, username, password, Server IP and Extender MAC address, so it is very possible to make a user. So I want a way to test the URL.

Is there a good command to issue that is innocuous in that it won't affect playback? Right now I am using the Home command, but that throws you back to the Main Menu screen.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by wayner

I have written an IP driver for SageTV for my Control4 Home Automation system that uses the same URL calls as used by the SageTV Web Remote Control. So

http://sage:frey@192.168.1.99:7070/sage/SageCommand?context=001d6a4cf499&command=Play

will be the same as pressing the Play key on the remote.

But there are a lot of fields to be entered by the user, username, password, Server IP and Extender MAC address, so it is very possible to make a user. So I want a way to test the URL.

Is there a good command to issue that is innocuous in that it won't affect playback? Right now I am using the Home command, but that throws you back to the Main Menu screen.

I usually use command=GetServerAddress

http://download.sage.tv/api/sage/api...ServerAddress()

It's a pretty simple call that just returns the IP address of the server, so I use that when I need to test a URL.

[wayner]

Thanks, Sean that appears to work.

One further question that you would be best to answer - is there any way to remotely get an AndroidTV device to activate the SageTV app? With an extender you can telnet in and send a "killall waitpower" command - is there anything analogous for AndroidTV? I am guessing not as this would be kind of a security risk.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by wayner

Thanks, Sean that appears to work.

One further question that you would be best to answer - is there any way to remotely get an AndroidTV device to activate the SageTV app? With an extender you can telnet in and send a "killall waitpower" command - is there anything analogous for AndroidTV? I am guessing not as this would be kind of a security risk.

Out of the box, no. You'd need to write some kind of service on android that listens for a conection request and then uses an Intent to start the miniclient, but even then, the miniclient would not directly connect to a server unless you had it set to auto connect.

[thopkin1]

While stuckless is correct that you need to program the mini-client with the server address for terms of automation you can use android adb to connect to an AndroidTV device and start an app with the following command (I think):
adb shell am start -n com.package.name/com.package.name.ActivityName
you will need to know/figure out the package name and update accordingly.

[wayner]

I don't know much about Android but don't you have to root your Android device to install adb?

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by wayner

I don't know much about Android but don't you have to root your Android device to install adb?

No, but you'll need to enable the development mode on the device and then grant access to it over the network when you connect (the first time).

You can then start an app, but, you can't control it... just start it.

[wayner]

Ok cool. Looking into this a bit more - according to a Reddit thread you may have to connect via USB and enable port 5555.

After doing some more digging, apparently port 5555 on the mi box is closed by default which is needed for wifi adb.

So to open port 5555, you need to use adb over usb first with an A to A usb cable, connect with adb usb and type adb tcpip 5555

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by wayner

Ok cool. Looking into this a bit more - according to a Reddit thread you may have to connect via USB and enable port 5555.

Yeah, on the NVidia shield, you'll be ok. On the MiBox, not sure, and the google nexus box, yes, you'll need to connect via usb first.

To be honest, while this process works, it is not trivial. Although once you have it working, once, it should be ok.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by stuckless

To be honest, while this process works, it is not trivial. Although once you have it working, once, it should be ok.

Is there really much to it once you have the USB connection up?

Does this still look like the process to follow?
https://www.howtogeek.com/125769/how...ridge-utility/

Brings me back to my original DVR hacking days - hacking a Series1 TiVo to allow it to be used in Canada back in about 2002. That required a bit of work and a hacked-together ethernet connector for the TiVo called a TiVonet (later Turbonet). I think some of the recorded TV files that I still have in SageTV were recorded on one of those TiVos and then transferred to my PC.

[wayner]

I played around with adb on my MiBox but it seems like more of a pain than anything else. You have to turn it on by connecting with a USB cable and enabling port 5555 for adb but it appears to me that you have to keep USB debugging enabled, even if you want to use adb over the LAN. That means that you can't use a USB-ethernet adapter. It also seems that it may reset all of this after a reboot of the device.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by wayner

I played around with adb on my MiBox but it seems like more of a pain than anything else. You have to turn it on by connecting with a USB cable and enabling port 5555 for adb but it appears to me that you have to keep USB debugging enabled, even if you want to use adb over the LAN. That means that you can't use a USB-ethernet adapter. It also seems that it may reset all of this after a reboot of the device.

Yeah, it's meant as a development aid/tool, so it's not really intended for this type of purpose. Unless you need to run in development mode, I would not turn it on.