SchedulesDirecte in v7.1.9?

[PeteCress]

I saw a ref somewhere that said, of the v7 iterations, only v7.1.9 will support the SchedulesDirect plugin.

I signed up for SD, and have an ID/PW.

Upgraded to 7.1.9, but it looks like the plugin is still not supported: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...p0NEFRQThPRVJ3

Then I came across EnterNoEscape's post that "Schedules Direct EPG support is now integrated into the SageTV core".

Would that include 7.1.9? Or just v9.x ?

I am leaning towards 7.1.9 out of conservatism.

Can anybody say if/how SchedulesDirect is accessible via 7.1.9?

[Tiki]

You should upgrade to Sage v9 as soon as possible. The interface is the same as v7 - you probably won't be able to tell the difference. But v7 is not supported anymore.

The SD plugin for Sage v7 is also not supported anymore. The person that wrote that plugin no longer uses SageTV.

SD support is built-in to Sage v9, so no plugin required to make it work (in fact the plugin would probably screw things up).

Since the original Sage EPG data will no longer be available after July 1, 2017, you will want to be running Sage v9 and configured to use Schedules Direct for EPG data before then.

Originally Posted by PeteCress

I saw a ref somewhere that said, of the v7 iterations, only v7.1.9 will support the SchedulesDirect plugin.

I signed up for SD, and have an ID/PW.

Upgraded to 7.1.9, but it looks like the plugin is still not supported: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1Q...p0NEFRQThPRVJ3

Then I came across EnterNoEscape's post that "Schedules Direct EPG support is now integrated into the SageTV core".

Would that include 7.1.9? Or just v9.x ?

I am leaning towards 7.1.9 out of conservatism.

Can anybody say if/how SchedulesDirect is accessible via 7.1.9?

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by Tiki

... Sagev9.... The interface is the same as v7 - you probably won't be able to tell the differenc



SD support is built-in to Sage v9, so no plugin required to make it work (in fact the plugin would probably screw things up).

Since the original Sage EPG data will no longer be available after July 1, 2017, you will want to be running Sage v9 and configured to use Schedules Direct for EPG data before then.

All things I was hoping to hear - and you spelled it out so even I could understand...-).

I will get on with v9 tonite.

Anybody know if I need to do anything vis-a-vis my HD HomeRun tuners? I saw something about SD support built in to the tuners...

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by PeteCress

I will get on with v9 tonite.

I am trying to work from

http://sagetv.wikia.com/wiki/SageTV_..._Instructions#, which makes statements like "Download the replacement Windows exe files from this post."

But I do not see any links or buttons that suggest downloads.

Tried Chrome and IE 11.... Are they there, but I'm just not seeing them?

Also, there is the statment: "Download the replacement Windows exe files from this post. (Currently optional for existing licensed SageTV users.)"

Huh?.... I would think the new .exe would be essential to somebody with 7 installed.

[jusjoken]

use the windows installer in my signature

backup your folder first then just run the install.

then for switching to SD check out the wiki

k

[EnterNoEscape]

It's probably a good thing that link does not exist. No one should still be upgrading the manual route.

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

It's probably a good thing that link does not exist. No one should still be upgrading the manual route.

I read the thread on the autoinstaller, clicked the link to the download, and wound up looking at a web page that I could not make any sense out of.

Can anybody post a simple "Download" link that downloads the .exe or .msi or whatever?

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by EnterNoEscape

It's probably a good thing that link does not exist. No one should still be upgrading the manual route.

Lotta links on that page....g

[KarylFStein]

Originally Posted by PeteCress

I read the thread on the autoinstaller, clicked the link to the download, and wound up looking at a web page that I could not make any sense out of.

Can anybody post a simple "Download" link that downloads the .exe or .msi or whatever?

In jusjokin's signature there's a link to "Windows Installer". That will take you to a post where near the very top is a line that says Windows Installer and then a button with a version next to it that says Download. Click on that then then on the FILES tab. You want the SageTVSetup_xxxxx.exe file. That button gets updated when a new version is released, so will always take you to the latest.

I don't want to post a direct link because it's only good until a new version is released.

[Tiki]

The first post in this thread is kept up to date and includes instructions:
https://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=63009

[davidk21770]

I've been traveling and missed the announcement that EPG would finally be ended.

I am really not ready to bite the bullet and jump to 9 yet.

I have complex setup with 4 OLD HD Homerun tuners (1st generation I think) on antenna, an even more ancient USB-UIRT tuning my cable box with direct IR combined with a (once again ancient) Hauppauge HDPVR. Tons of favorites. The only way that I went from XP -> 8.1 was by a new install followed by hacking all of my old config files onto the new install. (I was surprised when it worked!).

Is there any way to get Schedules Direct running with the old Sage 7.1.9.256? OR, has the install gotten to the point where it's an upgrade and the 9 install will read all of my old config files?

[Tiki]

Originally Posted by davidk21770

I've been traveling and missed the announcement that EPG would finally be ended.

I am really not ready to bite the bullet and jump to 9 yet.

I have complex setup with 4 OLD HD Homerun tuners (1st generation I think) on antenna, an even more ancient USB-UIRT tuning my cable box with direct IR combined with a (once again ancient) Hauppauge HDPVR. Tons of favorites. The only way that I went from XP -> 8.1 was by a new install followed by hacking all of my old config files onto the new install. (I was surprised when it worked!).

Is there any way to get Schedules Direct running with the old Sage 7.1.9.256? OR, has the install gotten to the point where it's an upgrade and the 9 install will read all of my old config files?

V9 will install over the top of v7 (like an upgrade) - however, the installer does not look for old installations - it just installs to the default location, unless you click the options button at the beginning of the install and specify a different path. So, if your old installation location was not the same as the current default location, it wouldn't automatically find the old one and upgrade it -unless you manually point it to that location.

Also, highly recommended to make a backup of your Sage installation folder before you start!

The default v9 user interface looks and works the same as v7 (in fact the UI is still called v7). 99% of the changes are under the hood and you probably won't notice much (if any) difference. There are a few new setup parameters, but not many, still may be worth looking through the setups.

Unless there is some unexpected problem, you should retain all of your favorites, watched history, tuner setups, etc. when you upgrade to v9. Most plugins that worked in v7 continue to work in v9.

When you switch from the Sage EPG to Schedules Direct, you do need to re-do your channel lineups (choose which channels to enable/disable and remap logical channels if this is important to you). There is a Channel import/export plugin (for v7 or v9) that can help with this.

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by davidk21770

I am really not ready to bite the bullet and jump to 9 yet.

I have complex setup with 4 OLD HD Homerun tuners (1st generation I think) on antenna, an even more ancient USB-UIRT tuning my cable box with direct IR combined with a (once again ancient) Hauppauge HDPVR. Tons of favorites.

I was where you are with the HD HomeRuns - albeit without the UIRT cable thing.

After a couple of false starts, somebody finally pointed me to the installer for v9. Click the .exe, and it does the deed..... Even I, who could mess up a wet dream, got through it.

Only issue I had was around the HD HomeRuns.

IIRC, I had to totally delete them from my system and start from scratch - adding each tuner as if it were new.

[davidk21770]

Wow Thanks!
The open source sage has come a long way! I never expected a "yes" answer to my "can I just upgrade" question!

I'm mostly worried about the HDHR and the USB-UIRT so if I have to reinstall the HDHR's, I can live with that! (Figuring it all out and then getting the channel codes in there to correctly tune the cable boxes took quite a bit of tweeking!).

I'm assuming that I should finally update JAVA to the most current. Do I want 32 or 64 bit? (I'm running win 8.1 home, 64 bit). Or should I just let the sage install do it for me?

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by davidk21770

I'm assuming that I should finally update JAVA to the most current. Do I want 32 or 64 bit? (I'm running win 8.1 home, 64 bit). Or should I just let the sage install do it for me?

WhenI did my install (to a fresh system, not an upgrade) IIRC the v9 installer took care of installing the proper version of Java.

Maybe Greater Minds Than Mine can confirm or correct...

[Taddeusz]

SageTV is a 32-bit program so you want the 32-bit Java.

[Tiki]

Java v8 is recommended for Sage v9, though Java v7 should also work.
The Windows version of Sage currently only supports the 32 bit version of Java (doesn't matter if using 32-bit Windows or 64-bit Windows, must use 32-bit Java).

The Linux version of Sage works with 64 bit Java.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by Tiki

The Windows version of Sage currently only supports the 32 bit version of Java (doesn't matter if Ison 32-bit Windows or 64-bit Windows, must use 32-bit Java).

The Linux version of Sage works with 64 bit Java.

This difference can be reason enough to switch to Linux as it allows you to run multiple extenders without the JVM choking due to lack of memory.

[Mark57]

Originally Posted by wayner

This difference can be reason enough to switch to Linux as it allows you to run multiple extenders without the JVM choking due to lack of memory.

That and getting out from under Windoz. (grin)

[Taddeusz]

Originally Posted by Mark57

That and getting out from under Windoz. (grin)

That and with the drive array unRAID makes nearly the perfect media server. Getting the same functionality on Windows just brings more complexity and you also have the overhead of the Windows GUI itself.