Recorded TV Showing Up in Videos by Folder ?

[PeteCress]

seeker/video_storage=U\:\\RecordedTV_1,20000000000,3;V\:\\RecordedTV_2,20000000000,3;W\:\\RecordedTV_3,20000000000,3;

seeker/archive_directory=\\\\NAS\\B\\DVDs_NetFlix,1;\\\\NAS\\B\\DVDs_NoBackup,1;\\\\NAS\\B\\DVDs_Owned,1;\\\\NAS\\A\\Videos,5;\\\\NAS\\A\\Photo,5;\\\\NAS\\B\\DVDs_Library,1;\\\\NAS\\B\\Streamed_NetFlix,1;\\\\NAS\\B\\Torrented,1;;\\\\NAS\\$OriginalRips,1;\\\\NAS\\B\\Streamed_HBO,1;\\\\NAS\\B\\Streamed_Amazon,1;

In my little world, video_storage is where my recordings of TV shows live and archive_directory is where I copy the movies that I have ripped from DVDs.

For instance, a recorded TV show called AmericanExperience-EyseonthePrizeAwakenings1954.... really is located where I would expect it: U:\RecordedTV_1.

But it does not show up in TV | Recordings | All Recordings - as 98% of all the other recorded TV shows do.

Instead, it shows up at the root of Videos by Folder.

First thing that comes to mind is some sort of archiving option where unwatched TV shows automagically get moved from the RecordedTV UI to the Videos UI after some predetermined time.

Second thing is a corrupted Wiz.bin file.

Can anybody elucidate ?

[Fuzzy]

For starters, ALL of those folders, whether video_storage or archive_directory are scanned by the same process. If the MediaFile is tied to an EPG Airing, it will show up as a recording. If it is not, it will show up as a video - doesn't matter where it's physically stored at. It appears this file somehow lost it's metadata in the wiz.bin.

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

For starters, ALL of those folders, whether video_storage or archive_directory are scanned by the same process. If the MediaFile is tied to an EPG Airing, it will show up as a recording. If it is not, it will show up as a video - doesn't matter where it's physically stored at. It appears this file somehow lost it's metadata in the wiz.bin.

Would there be adverse consequences to deleting Wiz.bin and letting Sage recreate it next time it starts up ?

[Tiki]

Originally Posted by PeteCress

Would there be adverse consequences to deleting Wiz.bin and letting Sage recreate it next time it starts up ?

Well there is the obvious - you would loose all your favorites, all your watched show history, and all history of anything that you marked as "don't like" (for intelligent recording purposes). So basically, you would be pretty-much starting from scratch.

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

For starters, ALL of those folders, whether video_storage or archive_directory are scanned by the same process. If the MediaFile is tied to an EPG Airing, it will show up as a recording. If it is not, it will show up as a video - doesn't matter where it's physically stored at. It appears this file somehow lost it's metadata in the wiz.bin.

Just tried this:

- Kill the SageTV service

- Save a copy of Sage.Properties that lacks any references to any
import directories - whether TV or Movies.

- Restart the SageTV service with the aim of getting Wiz.bin to have zero
recordings in it's list

- Let the SageTV service run for awhile

- Kill the SageTV service

- Save the original copy of Sage.Properties - the one with all the refs
to import directories.

- Restart the SageTV service so that it reacquires all videos - hopefully
categorizing them properly.

No change.

Just went to the SageTV directory and found 32 copies of Wiz.v6.bin.corruptnn - all dated 11/23/2015...

Must have been a bad day for Sage..... -) .... I can't swear to it, but I *think* that's about the time I figured out that my SDD was on the way out and replaced it....

Deleted Wiz.bin and started over.

Same-old-same-old.... So I guess that eliminates a corrupted Wiz.bin as the explanation.

Revisited Setup | Detailed Setup | Video Recording Directories and they look correct.

Revisited Setup | Detailed Setup | Media Center Import Directories, and they look correct.

I am starting to wonder if this could be something external to Sage.....

??

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by Tiki

Well there is the obvious - you would loose all your favorites, all your watched show history, and all history of anything that you marked as "don't like" (for intelligent recording purposes). So basically, you would be pretty-much starting from scratch.

Did it....

No change except maybe more of the offending .MPGs showing up.

viz: https://picasaweb.google.com/1081497...31389951751826
(don't let the "zzz..." folder name prefixes muddy the water. They are prefixed that way to identify folders where the contents still need work)

The fact that a list of "Folders" contains individual file names - plus the unlikelyhood of such an obvious bug - makes me think maybe I've fat-fingered a setting.

[Fuzzy]

Originally Posted by PeteCress

Did it....

No change except maybe more of the offending .MPGs showing up.

viz: https://picasaweb.google.com/1081497...31389951751826
(don't let the "zzz..." folder name prefixes muddy the water. They are prefixed that way to identify folders where the contents still need work)

The fact that a list of "Folders" contains individual file names - plus the unlikelyhood of such an obvious bug - makes me think maybe I've fat-fingered a setting.

Can you describe in a bit of detail what you are seeing and what you are expecting to see? I'm not sure the source of those 19612_6-1_xxxx.mpg files, as those do not appear to be sagetv recordings, or at least I've never seen sage name files in such a way.

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

Can you describe in a bit of detail what you are seeing and what you are expecting to see? I'm not sure the source of those 19612_6-1_xxxx.mpg files, as those do not appear to be sagetv recordings, or at least I've never seen sage name files in such a way.

The names look goofy to me too - but there are only nine of those and the rest are what one would expect..... but they are all from RecordedTV drives.

e.g.
9 Goofy: https://picasaweb.google.com/1081497...16582094594898
Conventional: https://picasaweb.google.com/1081497...16581480839202

As far as what I expect to see goes, I would expect to see only folder names in the Videos by Folder list.

Also, since Sage distinguishes between "TV" and "Videos", I assume that it categorizes RecordedTV as "TV" and everything else as "Videos".....

So: not only should those TV .mpg's not appear in Videos by Folder because they are not in any folder, they should also not appear because they are "TV" and not "Vidoes".

OOPS!..... Now that you have me thinking this through, I may be on to something.

I am going to test that "something" out, and will be back with the results.

[Fuzzy]

All recordings are in the root of their recording folder. If Sage doesn't KNOW a file is a recording, it is treated as an imported video - doesn't matter what folder it is in - and since these are apparently NOT tied to airings, they are imported videos, and are not in a subfolder, so they show at the root of Videos by Folder.

Have you looked at using Gemstone? It is far more customizable than the default UI.

[PeteCress]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

All recordings are in the root of their recording folder. If Sage doesn't KNOW a file is a recording, it is treated as an imported video - doesn't matter what folder it is in - and since these are apparently NOT tied to airings, they are imported videos, and are not in a subfolder, so they show at the root of Videos by Folder.

That "something" was what you just alluded to: the "root-ness" of files relative to the specified TV directories.

For backup and other reasons, I have Windows-defined directories that look like this:

U:\RecordedTV_1
V:\RecordedTV_2
W:\RecordedTV_3

But it turned out that, for some reason, all the recorded tv shows on drive U were at the root (i.e. U:\ instead of U:\RecordedTV_1)

I just moved them from the root of the drive to the proper directory, but now I have to revisit the article on how to move RecordedTV and figure out how to get Wiz.bin in on the changes.... hoping that was the origin of my problem.

Have you looked at using Gemstone? It is far more customizable than the default UI.

Never even heard of it.... generally preferred to do my settings as direct edits to SageTV.Properties.

But now I will check it out.