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Old 07-04-2004, 05:09 PM
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Sage 2.0 / PVR-350 Menus Wider Than TV Screen

Using Sage 2.0 with PVR-350 card. Menus are wider and taller than TV screen. I have tried adjusting the aspect ratio, which affects the TV picture, but no effect on the display of the menu.

Overscan settings will move the menu right, left, up or down, but menu still larger than TV display. Not an issue when displayed on computer video.

Is there a setting that will reduce the height and width of the menus when displayed on the TV?

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Old 07-04-2004, 05:18 PM
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Re: Sage 2.0 / PVR-350 Menus Wider Than TV Screen

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Using Sage 2.0 with PVR-350 card. Menus are wider and taller than TV screen. I have tried adjusting the aspect ratio, which affects the TV picture, but no effect on the display of the menu.

Overscan settings will move the menu right, left, up or down, but menu still larger than TV display. Not an issue when displayed on computer video.

Is there a setting that will reduce the height and width of the menus when displayed on the TV?

Thanks
Adjust the overscan settings. They can be found on the Detailed Setup screen, the Multimedia tab, and then the Overscal Settings option.

When I adjusted my settings, I tweaked the settings here and toggled between the setup screen and the LiveTV screen (using the LiveTV button) so I could verify the menues.
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Old 07-04-2004, 08:59 PM
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Fidget:

Using that setting/adjustment, I can only move the menu up, down, right or left. The result is more of the menu is off the screen when I adjust in one direction or the other.

Really need an adjustment or setting that reduces the size of the menu on the TV screen.

Thanks,
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Old 07-04-2004, 09:06 PM
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Are you sure about that? What version of SageTV are you using? The two or three times I have used it, SageTV 2.0 allowed me to specify the upper right corner and lower left corner on my TV. I can't try it now because I am running SageTV 1.4.

edit: I think you may be confusing the reduction/increase as just a movement of the UI.
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Fidget:

Using that setting/adjustment, I can only move the menu up, down, right or left. The result is more of the menu is off the screen when I adjust in one direction or the other.

Really need an adjustment or setting that reduces the size of the menu on the TV screen.

Thanks,
I am running version 2.0.19 and here are some snapshots of the overscan adjustment process.

Initial screen:


Top-Left corner adjustment


Bottom-Right corner adjustment
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Old 07-04-2004, 10:13 PM
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WGR -

What Fidget is telling you is correct. When using the overscan feature, adjust by first placing upper "left corner", then configure to bottom "right corner". When using the overscan feature, it will first look like it is moving everything, but when you adjust the bottom right, you'll notice that everything is actually shrinking.

Hope you get it configured without too many issues.
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Old 07-05-2004, 06:49 AM
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Thanks for the tips. Visually it appears that the entire menu moves while clicking on up/down - left/right arrow. Maybe just the way it appears.

In any case I figured out a work around.

In the configuration file there is an entry -ui/ui_overscan_correction_perct_height=0.99
ui/ui_overscan_correction_perct_width=1.0


By changing the percentage on these values in the Sage.properties file, I was able to change the height and width on the menu. Probably the screen shots shown in the previous reply accomplish the same thing.

Thanks for responses and suggestions.
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Old 07-05-2004, 08:04 AM
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Thanks for the tips. Visually it appears that the entire menu moves while clicking on up/down - left/right arrow. Maybe just the way it appears.

In any case I figured out a work around.

In the configuration file there is an entry -ui/ui_overscan_correction_perct_height=0.99
ui/ui_overscan_correction_perct_width=1.0


By changing the percentage on these values in the Sage.properties file, I was able to change the height and width on the menu. Probably the screen shots shown in the previous reply accomplish the same thing.

Thanks for responses and suggestions.
The screen shots show a more user friendly way of changin those values. When you go through the first phase of adjusting overscan, you will be shifting the overlays around the screen. The second phase will then adjust their sizes (shrinking them to fit). Try playing with the menu to tweak your settings.
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Old 07-05-2004, 09:46 AM
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yes ... remember there are two parts to the overscan adjustment ... i was a little confused at first also.

When you first enter the overscan menu you are adjusting the upper left conner. when you do this it moves the whole screen. Just make sure you focus on placement of the upper left conner. When you have that place correctly if you hit the center button it will then ask you to place the bottom right corner.

While you select the bottom right corner, sage will lock the top left corner and you will now see the screen taking shape on you TV.

Remember the first movement of the overscan moves the whole screen, but you are only concerned with placing the upper left corner into position. Once you hit the done key it will lock the upper left corner into position and allow you to position the bottom right corner. You have to do both of these steps to adjust the screen correctly .... don't stop after the first step.
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