New Phoenix build (2.3.50) is in the wild

[stuckless]

I know that people think everything related to SageTV is dead, so I'm happy to announce there is a new phoenix-api/core released this morning. (This is not the UI)

If you run phoenix ui, then just into the options menu, select sage setup, plugins, and then update the phoenix-core, which will update phoenix api, sagex, etc.

This release, unfortuntely, doesn't add much although there was a lot of new code added

Mainly this release adds the Weather apis that jusjoken added and will be used by Gemstone and newer releases of the Phoenix UI.

Some other things burried in this release, but ready for public consumption include
* UPnP client and server support (ie, ability to watch content on upnp devices, like playon -- early stages, still have lots of work to do here)
* Native online videos. ie, the ability to browse and play online videos in the Phoenix UI without needing to go to the default STV. (again, early stages, not yet complete)
* REST/Json apis for exposing Phoenix apis to other devices (again, not yet complete, but it is being used by my Android app)

So, this gives you a glimpse of where the efforts will be placed over the next while. Despite what people think, development is not dead... but it has certainly slowed. But to be honest, the slowing of development has little to do with the state of SageTV and more to do with the fact that I can ONLY work on one project at a time, and my efforts have been concentrated on the Android side of things for the last year.

[Polypro]

Thanks for your continued effort!

P

[RonBoyd]

Originally Posted by Polypro

Thanks for your continued effort!

+1

[nyplayer]

Thanks Stuckless

[darrylc]

Yes, thanks indeed!

[rtengvad]

Again very good work. Thanks!

Rasmus

[Dargason]

Originally Posted by stuckless

* UPnP client and server support (ie, ability to watch content on upnp devices, like playon -- early stages, still have lots of work to do here)

Does this mean that (someday, anyway) that Phoenix would be able to play stuff on my tablet that I 'push' to it?

I'm not sure what is the best way to explain this... currently I can set up my android tablet (Asus Transformer TF300) to share my media... the tablet UI is contains stuff in it to pick an output device that I want to play the media on, but nothing ever shows up. I assumed that this was because my TV and SageTV don't register themselves as devices that can play media. It works fine if I navigate through the various menus in Sage and locate the tablet server and pick the file and play it, but that's not as slick as the other way.

There's a video of what I'm talking about here: ASUS MyNet App Edit: Skip to about 1:30 to save time.

It's nothing I'm really drooling over or anything, I was just curious.

[stuckless]

I'm not sure if the Asus is using pure upnp or if they are using some proprietary extensions on top of upnp, but yeah, in theory, it would mean that you could browse your tablet media on the sagetv device.

And on the flip side, it would also mean that you could export your sagetv media (tv, movies, etc) to other clients, like a tablet, that could watch the content.

UPnP is basically a pipe dream... it all sounds great in theory, but it rarely ever works that well... but when it does.. it works pretty good

[Gustovier]

Originally Posted by stuckless

I'm not sure if the Asus is using pure upnp or if they are using some proprietary extensions on top of upnp, but yeah, in theory, it would mean that you could browse your tablet media on the sagetv device.

And on the flip side, it would also mean that you could export your sagetv media (tv, movies, etc) to other clients, like a tablet, that could watch the content.

UPnP is basically a pipe dream... it all sounds great in theory, but it rarely ever works that well... but when it does.. it works pretty good

That's where AirPlay comes in for the win

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by Gustovier

That's where AirPlay comes in for the win

Last I checked AirPlay didn't work with the following devices that I own...
- My Nexus 7 Tablet
- My Samsung 10.1 Tablet
- My Nexus Phone
- My Linux Desktop
- My Kid's Phone (S2)
- My Wife's Blackberry

AirPlay "wins" because it supports such a limited set of hardware I don't really call that a win But, if you are an apple person, then it's great solution, I'll give you that

[BobbyDing]

The latest SageTVPlugins.xml (1.0.1470) is showing version 2.3.44. Is this correct?

<Package>
<PackageType>System</PackageType>
<Location>http://sagephoenix.googlecode.com/files/phoenix-core-2.3.44.zip</Location>
<MD5>67b2f14db19331300651bc641ca2f575</MD5>
</Package>


What brought this to my attention is that Sluggers groovy script for updating the plugins is throwing an IOexeption error:

ID: phoenix-core
Location: http://sagephoenix.googlecode.com/fi...ore-2.3.44.zip
Download: S:\SageTV\SageTV\Plugins\Repository\phoenix-core\phoenix-core-2.3.44.zip
MD5: 67b2f14db19331300651bc641ca2f575
Downloading... FAILED (IOException)

The actual phoenix-core-2.3.44.zip file in my repository is 0k (empty). Tried deleting the zip and running again. Same results.

Thanks

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by BobbyDing

The latest SageTVPlugins.xml (1.0.1470) is showing version 2.3.44. Is this correct?

<Package>
<PackageType>System</PackageType>
<Location>http://sagephoenix.googlecode.com/files/phoenix-core-2.3.44.zip</Location>
<MD5>67b2f14db19331300651bc641ca2f575</MD5>
</Package>


What brought this to my attention is that Sluggers groovy script for updating the plugins is throwing an IOexeption error:

ID: phoenix-core
Location: http://sagephoenix.googlecode.com/fi...ore-2.3.44.zip
Download: S:\SageTV\SageTV\Plugins\Repository\phoenix-core\phoenix-core-2.3.44.zip
MD5: 67b2f14db19331300651bc641ca2f575
Downloading... FAILED (IOException)

The actual phoenix-core-2.3.44.zip file in my repository is 0k (empty). Tried deleting the zip and running again. Same results.

Thanks

2.3.50 is the latest

[Gustovier]

Originally Posted by stuckless

Last I checked AirPlay didn't work with the following devices that I own...
- My Nexus 7 Tablet
- My Samsung 10.1 Tablet
- My Nexus Phone
- My Linux Desktop
- My Kid's Phone (S2)
- My Wife's Blackberry

AirPlay "wins" because it supports such a limited set of hardware I don't really call that a win But, if you are an apple person, then it's great solution, I'll give you that

True true. But it does just work, At least the standard is pretty much guaranteed to work where it is implemented unlike all the different implantations of upnp (ie..dlna that's different from every manufacture) that's out there. I really wish upnp Was just more standardized to work across everything

[tmiranda]

Sean,

Where can I find the phoenix api JavaDocs?

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

Sean,

Where can I find the phoenix api JavaDocs?

Hey Tom, for each build of Phoenix, a javadoc package is created and uploaded to the download site.

Here's the link for the 2.3.52 that was just released.

[tmiranda]

Originally Posted by stuckless

Hey Tom, for each build of Phoenix, a javadoc package is created and uploaded to the download site.

Here's the link for the 2.3.52 that was just released.

I downloaded the JavaDoc but I don't see the phoenix.videothumbs api that you mentioned in the other thread. (phoenix.videothumbs.GenerateThumbnailsEvery, phoenix.videothumbs.GenerateThumbnailsEvenly) What am I missing?

[BobPhoenix]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I downloaded the JavaDoc but I don't see the phoenix.videothumbs api that you mentioned in the other thread. (phoenix.videothumbs.GenerateThumbnailsEvery, phoenix.videothumbs.GenerateThumbnailsEvenly) What am I missing?

I think I found what you are looking for in VideoThumbAPI.html after unzipping the archive from his link.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by tmiranda

I downloaded the JavaDoc but I don't see the phoenix.videothumbs api that you mentioned in the other thread. (phoenix.videothumbs.GenerateThumbnailsEvery, phoenix.videothumbs.GenerateThumbnailsEvenly) What am I missing?

All of the apis are in the "phoenix" subfolder.

So the videothumbs api is located

phoenix-javadoc/phoenix/videothumbs.html

In the attached screenshot, you should see that when you open "index.html" it shows 3 frames. In the top left frame, click on "phoenix", and it then shows all the phoenix api categories in the bottom left frame, and then click on the api you want to look at, such as "videothumbs".

[tmiranda]

Found it, thanks.

I actually ended up writing something similar in Studio. I thought it would be overkill to force dependency on phoenix for this one api.

Looking through that javadoc I see a lot of really interesting, and useful, api's. Sean must have been a very busy bee for a long time.....