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Old 02-29-2012, 12:53 PM
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xbmc is doing a custom build for Raspberry PI. So I don't see a snowball chance of getting anything from Sage running on it.

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Old 02-29-2012, 01:08 PM
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Isnt there already a SageTV debian distro? Will that not run?
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:12 PM
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Isnt there already a SageTV debian distro? Will that not run?
There is a debian build for Sage server. There is no Sage client build. There is Placeshifter.

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Old 02-29-2012, 01:14 PM
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The builds are for x86 not ARM. You would have better luck playing with the binaries from an extender

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Old 02-29-2012, 01:32 PM
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well that would be an issue...

but the server isnt since you can put the server in client mode.

wonder if we can get Opus to build for ARM?
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Old 02-29-2012, 01:57 PM
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well that would be an issue...

but the server isnt since you can put the server in client mode.

wonder if we can get Opus to build for ARM?
You can put the server in client mode on Linux? I did not know that. I know you can on Windows.

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Old 03-01-2012, 09:02 AM
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You can put the server in client mode on Linux? I did not know that. I know you can on Windows.

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No, you cannot put the server into client mode on linux. There is a linux "miniclient" that is a cross between placeshifter & a "real" sageclient (allows extensions like comskip, does not play BD folder structures)

The closest thing to a linux arm client is the HD100 firmware, which is pretty darned specific to the HD100.

Also, the Raspberry Pi is unsuitable for a client for most people, as it cannot playback MPEG2, which is what most digital OTA / QAM / CableCard video is recorded as, not to mention DVDs.

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Old 03-01-2012, 10:58 AM
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Missing BDMV folder playback is no big deal - it wasn't very featureful and it is easy to convert whole movie to single M2TS which many of us do anyway.
Are there other key / notable items missing?

As for the missing MPEG2 codec my understanding is that this is simply a question of licensing $. This can be solved by installing our own commercial paid decoder, correct?
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:35 PM
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It would be nice if they had a more deluxe version of the Raspberry Pi that included the MPEG-2 codec licensing and more memory. It is kind of cool to have a $35 computer but some of the limitations of this device may be significantly reducing the functionality.
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Old 03-01-2012, 01:47 PM
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Speaking of a more powerful version, here is another tiny PC called the Cotton Candy. It runs Linux and Android and costs $1199 and it looks like a large USB stick. You could plug this in to the HDMI port of your TV, add a Bluetooth remote and use as an HTPC.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...m_campaign=rss
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Speaking of a more powerful version, here is another tiny PC called the Cotton Candy. It runs Linux and Android and costs $1199 and it looks like a large USB stick. You could plug this in to the HDMI port of your TV, add a Bluetooth remote and use as an HTPC.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...m_campaign=rss
For $1199, it had better pop the popcorn & refill my beer!

Ah, I see. You mean $199. That's not too bad, but it is expensive enough to be in Atom / Amd llano territory.. If there is an XBMC port for it, it could be very interesting indeed.

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Old 03-01-2012, 02:51 PM
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Missing BDMV folder playback is no big deal - it wasn't very featureful and it is easy to convert whole movie to single M2TS which many of us do anyway.
Are there other key / notable items missing?

As for the missing MPEG2 codec my understanding is that this is simply a question of licensing $. This can be solved by installing our own commercial paid decoder, correct?
The x86 linux miniclient uses a SageTV hacked version of mplayer for playback. It is missing support for modern video acceleration APIs (VDPAU, VAAPI), meaning that it works reasonably well on a beefy machine, but not so well on something like an Atom. It would be reasonable to assume that the SageTV extensions could be ported forward to a newer version of mplayer.

Also, the GUI and/or OSD is rather funky in that it requires support not present in all Linux video drivers to work properly. There are a number of threads about that in the Linux subforum. I've had reasonable success running it on my current server with the proprietary Nvidia drivers, but I never had much luck on my old machine with a Radeon card. The open source video driver had OSD problems, and the proprietary fglrx driver had tearing video problems (I could have that reversed, but neither worked worth a darn).


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Sorry for the typo - it is 199. Note that Dargason started a thread on this device as well.
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Speaking of a more powerful version, here is another tiny PC called the Cotton Candy. It runs Linux and Android and costs $1199 and it looks like a large USB stick. You could plug this in to the HDMI port of your TV, add a Bluetooth remote and use as an HTPC.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...m_campaign=rss
Unless I am missing something, wouldn't the lack of a hardwired ethernet connection be an issue for 1080p video streaming?
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:44 AM
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Unless I am missing something, wouldn't the lack of a hardwired ethernet connection be an issue for 1080p video streaming?
Maybe. It's not impossible but it's not guaranteed either. It does have a USB port so you could use that for a usb-ethernet hard wire connection if needed.

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Maybe. It's not impossible but it's not guaranteed either. It does have a USB port so you could use that for a usb-ethernet hard wire connection if needed.

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My understanding of the Raspberry Pi is that the more expensive version with the hard-wired ethernet port just has a USB hub & USB ethernet interface added on the board.

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My understanding of the Raspberry Pi is that the more expensive version with the hard-wired ethernet port just has a USB hub & USB ethernet interface added on the board.

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This is true for Raspberry Pi. But the other post was referring to the Cotton Candy $199 thumb drive-sized PC. This does NOT have a Ethernet port on it. This is why i was referring to using a usb Ethernet hard wire adapter. Sorry for the confusion.

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This is true for Raspberry Pi. But the other post was referring to the Cotton Candy $199 thumb drive-sized PC. This does NOT have a Ethernet port on it. This is why i was referring to using a usb Ethernet hard wire adapter. Sorry for the confusion.

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No worries.. I was just trying to point out that the Raspberry Pi doesn't have a real ethernet port either, it is just a USB adapter there too. Though it is bundled with the box.. For some reason (perhaps really low quality 1st generation implementations), I've never trusted USB/Ethernet devices.

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Here's a video of the Raspberry Pi running XBMC.

http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/810
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My friend works for a company that designs/builds small computers for industrial use. He pointed me to this fanless system he recently designed. It's much more expensive than R Pi, but may be a better option for either Sage or MythTV.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Logic_Supply_LGX_AG150

He also seemed open to "taking requests" for future models.
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