HDHR-6cc-2x3

[sflamm]

Cannot find where to buy a HDHR-6cc-2x3.
Anyone know? Is this discontinued?

[gplasky]

Probably in the ramp up for another production run. MicroCenter has the 3 tuner for $209.

Gerry

[sflamm]

Thanks for the pointer $209 is a good price.

I've been successfully running a Ceton in a dedicated SFF pc - looking to cut out the overhead/costs (electricity) of a 24x7 pc...

Trade off is 3 tuners versus 4 on the Ceton...

But it look like 2 x hdhr prime-3cc is much cheaper than the -6cc and has the same physical setup...

Anyone know how much power the Prime draws continuously (watts) ?

[leagle]

I can throw a meter on mine to check, but I'm willing to bet that it is very, very low (<10w) even with all three tuners in use.

[sflamm]

Thanks that would be much appreciated.

The SFF PC draws minimum of 300W which at .12c / kwh translates to 3.6c per hour or $311 per year. At 400W it is $414 per year...

I like that my Ceton works... and it made sense before the Prime was available and SageDCT supported it... but now it is looking very expensive to operate.

[sflamm]

I just received word from Silicondust:

With a Motorola CableCARD and all 3 tuners streaming the power consumption is approx 6W at the device.

The power adapter is a Class V (highest efficiency class).

Approx 8W at the wall under typical max load.

When not using a tuner the related tuner hardware is put into standby mode to reduce power.
The CableCARD and CPU continue to operate when in standby mode as required by the CableLabs rules.

This is excellent - makes moving to a Prime a no-brainer.

[drewg]

Originally Posted by sflamm

The SFF PC draws minimum of 300W which at .12c / kwh translates to 3.6c per hour or $311 per year. At 400W it is $414 per year...

That sounds like a heck of a lot. Is that measured, or just based on the PSU's rating?

Normally computers will pull much less than the max load on the PSU. For example, I've measured (via kill-a-watt) my Xeon E3-1270 (like a core i5)
pulling 60-70w at idle (3x 3TB HDD, 1x 64G SSD, 2x USB tuners, 1x PCI tuner, 1x fanless GForce 210, 1x BD drive). Under load, I've seen it pull up to about 160W or so. I've got a 500W PSU, which turned out to be over-kill.

Drew

[sflamm]

PSU estimate - I dont have a kill-a-watt or equivalent around...

You make a good point - idle on the device is probably more like 80 Wph (which would lead to $83/year if it was idle 100% a year)

The sn21g5 Shuttle I have is very old, running an AMD 64 X2 (939 socket). The CPU alone idles at 40W. From reviews I've found it appears that box typically idles around 85-90W.

The Ceton card has been carefully reviewed:

Power use was higher than expected with the device pulling 10.2 watts (W) even with no tuners active. Consumption ramped from there to a peak of 11.6W when fully taxed.

Combining the two the likely idle power consumption is: 95W
If it was idle 100% of the year it would cost approx $100/yr.

The probable non-idle power consumption is 80% of the PSU or 240W.

Assuming that the device records 4 hours a day of TV - then it is idle 83.3% and non-idle 16.7%. This leads to a full year cost of: $125 / yr.