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Old 01-13-2013, 03:04 PM
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I see that just appends the filename to the new base path to create the full file path....

what do you think the problem is with using UNC replacement paths?
Does VLC support UNC targets? It's either an issue with how the cmdline is passed to VLC or an issue with VLC.
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Old 01-14-2013, 02:41 PM
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I am able to view a file on the NAS via VLC when I type in the file address as: "\\NASNAME\Sage_Recordings\Recording"

After adding "\\NASNAME\Sage_Recordings" as a recording directory in Sage and changing Replace Path to the same, when I try to record in Sage I get a 30 second spinning circle and the following log files:

SageDCT_2300.txt

sagetv_0 test.txt
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:09 PM
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The error is:

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GET_FILE_SIZE no filepath provided

Can the account that SageDCT access the path "\\NEOGA\Sage_Recordings" and does it have permissions to write into that directory?
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:13 PM
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This looks related:

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eeker channel string=620
Mon 1/14 12:06:48.180 [KeepAlive@f446c9] Error with c/s comm:java.lang.NullPointerException
Mon 1/14 12:06:48.183 [KeepAlive@f446c9] NetworkManager CommunicationFailure : /127.0.0.1:58804 type=2
Mon 1/14 12:06:48.185 [KeepAlive@f446c9] NetworkManager CommunicationFailure : /127.0.0.1:58804 type=2
Mon 1/14 12:06:58.652 [ConnSendQueue@7268e7] Error communicating with server:java.lang.NullPointerException
Mon 1/14 12:06:58.655 [ConnSendQueue@7268e7] Cleaning up c/s connection
Mon 1/14 12:06:58.659 [ConnSendQueue@7268e7] NetworkManager CommunicationFailure : /127.0.0.1:58804 type=1
Mon 1/14 12:06:58.665 [ConnSendQueue@7268e7] MsgSend thread terminating for /127.0.0.1:58804
Mon 1/14 12:06:59.100 [PluginEventQueue@18c0c6b] Exception error in plugin event listener of: java.lang.NullPointerException
Mon 1/14 12:07:14.101 [Seeker@169d854] Error communicating with encoding server:java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "ERROR failed request"
Mon 1/14 12:07:14.111 [Seeker@169d854] RootFile=\\NEOGA\Sage_Recordings fstype=null fileLength=0 file=\\NEOGA\Sage_Recordings\MonsterJam-Minneapolis-7814112-2.ts
Mon 1/14 12:07:29.121 [Seeker@169d854] Error communicating with encoding server:java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "ERROR failed request"
Mon 1/14 12:07:41.177 [Ministry@1c670b0] Ministry is waiting for 180 sec
Mon 1/14 12:07:44.133 [Seeker@169d854] Error communicating with encoding server:java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "ERROR failed request"
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:16 PM
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I wanted to make the NAS the primary recording location, but when I used 'replace path' as "\\NASNAME\Sage\Recordings" it didn't work, nor did leaving it blank.
Have you tried just setting "\\NASNAME\Sage\Recordings" as the media directory in SageTV (Detailed setup) and simply not use the SageDCT 'replace path' feature? I dont see why you would need to replace the path?

SageTV will make the request to SageDCT to record using the UNC path if it is set as the recording media path...
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:23 PM
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Is the NAS a standalone Linux NAS? It could be that the path is case sensitive... Notice that SageDCT is using "\\Neoga\Sage_Recordings" and SageTV is using "\\NEOGA\Sage_Recordings" ... That would be two different locations on SMB share if it is case sensitive.
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Old 01-14-2013, 04:26 PM
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Looks like SageTV is requesting:

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2013/01/14 12:13:16.70 : ProcessMessage 6972: GET_FILE_SIZE \\NEOGA\Sage_Recordings\MonsterJam-Minneapolis-7814112-0.ts
and the 'replace path' is changing for VLC to:

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Exec VLC: C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\VLC.exe -vvv rtp://192.168.123.1:5012 --sout file/ts:"\\Neoga\Sage_Recordings\MonsterJam-Minneapolis-7814112-2.ts"
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Old 01-14-2013, 05:07 PM
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Is SageDCT is running at a system level that can resolve netbios names? Does using an IP work? If not there were general limits on share names at one time to 12 or 13 character from the short name era, maybe that still an issue?

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Old 01-14-2013, 08:50 PM
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Can the account that SageDCT access the path "\\NEOGA\Sage_Recordings" and does it have permissions to write into that directory?
Not sure I understand the first question. The NAS directory is shared and permits both read and write to everyone.

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Have you tried just setting "\\NASNAME\Sage\Recordings" as the media directory in SageTV (Detailed setup) and simply not use the SageDCT 'replace path' feature? I dont see why you would need to replace the path?
That fails as well, but I'll try it again with debugs on.

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Is the NAS a standalone Linux NAS?
It's a Buffalo NAS per my sig.

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Is SageDCT is running at a system level that can resolve netbios names? Does using an IP work? If not there were general limits on share names at one time to 12 or 13 character from the short name era, maybe that still an issue?
Don't understand or know how to answer the netbios question. Haven't tried an IP address, but could.

For the record, I had been using SageDCT without problems with "NEOGA/Sage_Recordings" without VLC and without Replace Path until I started to get unplayable videos and liveTV. Switched to VLC and am limited to local drives for recording.
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Old 01-15-2013, 08:48 AM
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Is the SageDCT service running as a user with network credentials (like the one you logged in as) or as LocalSystem? LocalSystem (which is the default) does not have access to the network, so you need to change the credentials of the service to be one that does have access to the network.
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Old 01-15-2013, 02:21 PM
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<EDIT 1/24/2013> trying like crazy to give sufficient and clear information that someone can (will) respond.

OK, ran another test...
- Changed SageDCT service to run as a user with network credentials rather than LocalSystem
- Added "//NEOGA/Sage_Recordings" as recording directory
- Removed entry for 'Replace Path' in SageDCT Config

I then tried to record with VLC checked and then unchecked.
With VLC unchecked was able to record to the NAS.
With VLC checked got spinning circle. No file appeared on NAS, except perhaps momentarily.

The recording was initiated around 14:33:27 in these files:

SageDCT_4172 log.txt

sagetv_0 test3.txt

This seems to be the place where things blow up, but I don't know what it means:

2013/01/15 14:33:48.83 : UPnP stop: HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13112554-2

What told the tuner to stop?
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Old 01-24-2013, 09:54 PM
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Looking for your feedback ...

I am using HDHomerun software/firmware 20120802beta1 and everything is working just fine. I learned a long time ago to not fix what is not broken, but am very intrigued with the DLNA features (have a PS3) and would like to try it out. However, before engaging in some fun experimentation to see what is possible I thought I would ask the group for their feedback on how well the latest HDhomerun software (currently 20130121beta1) is treating everyone with SageDCT.

Thoughts?
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Old 01-28-2013, 11:38 AM
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malbec,
I think you and I are the only two watching this thread, and I'm not so sure about you.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:09 PM
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I'm watching the thread, although I can't give much help. I don't have SageDCT installed yet, but I've been thinking about setting it up for a while. I was originally going to try to get it going on my current Sage server (running WinXP), but I couldn't figure out from the documentation out there if I could get it working without an WMC box.

I may try again. I had/have a new(er) WMC box that I intended to use with Ceton Echos. I'm quickly losing hope that the Echo will ever live up to expectations, so I'm now planning to set up a new Sage server on that box and finally put my Athlon X2 box running WinXP-SP3 out of its misery. I'm not looking forward to it, though. My current server has 5 years worth of tweaks to it, and I'm not sure I even remember everything I did to it over the years. I probably won't get it back to the same state, which might actually be a good thing. I had to screw with a lot of things to get firewire recording working back in the day, and I didn't undo all those things when I shifted to HD-PVRs.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:23 PM
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I'm watching it. Avidly, too, as my issues with HDHRP are the only thing pushing me to leave Sage for MCE.

The new firmware solved some of my freezing problems, but there are still several Comcast channels I can't tune at all, and the VLC option either doesn't work at all, or stutters badly.
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:58 PM
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Looking for your feedback ...

I am using HDHomerun software/firmware 20120802beta1 and everything is working just fine. I learned a long time ago to not fix what is not broken, but am very intrigued with the DLNA features (have a PS3) and would like to try it out. However, before engaging in some fun experimentation to see what is possible I thought I would ask the group for their feedback on how well the latest HDhomerun software (currently 20130121beta1) is treating everyone with SageDCT.

Thoughts?
No Problem with latest Beta firmware and SAGEDCT.... DLNA is working.
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Old 01-28-2013, 01:17 PM
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<EDIT 1/24/2013> trying like crazy to give sufficient and clear information that someone can (will) respond.

OK, ran another test...
- Changed SageDCT service to run as a user with network credentials rather than LocalSystem
- Added "//NEOGA/Sage_Recordings" as recording directory
- Removed entry for 'Replace Path' in SageDCT Config

I then tried to record with VLC checked and then unchecked.
With VLC unchecked was able to record to the NAS.
With VLC checked got spinning circle. No file appeared on NAS, except perhaps momentarily.

The recording was initiated around 14:33:27 in these files:

Attachment 13811

Attachment 13812

This seems to be the place where things blow up, but I don't know what it means:

2013/01/15 14:33:48.83 : UPnP stop: HDHomeRun Prime Tuner 13112554-2

What told the tuner to stop?
I believe the author of SAGEDCT does not recommend recording to a NAS... maybe you can get someone that is actually recording to a NAS to chime in. I record to local drives using SAGDECT. I installed a PCIe Intel Nic card and attached a switch to it... I had some problems with the onboard nic. Also make sure in the firewall settings SAGEDCT has full access also Sagetv.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:44 PM
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I'm watching the thread, although I can't give much help. I don't have SageDCT installed yet, but I've been thinking about setting it up for a while. I was originally going to try to get it going on my current Sage server (running WinXP), but I couldn't figure out from the documentation out there if I could get it working without an WMC box.
I have it working on server 2003, no wmc box required. It was actually fairly painless to get going. The only snag was getting the upnp/ssdp services installed on server 2003 (xp should be no problem as they are already installed)

Here are some nice instructions from jlmdxtv.
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Old 01-28-2013, 03:58 PM
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I believe the author of SAGEDCT does not recommend recording to a NAS... maybe you can get someone that is actually recording to a NAS to chime in. I record to local drives using SAGDECT. I installed a PCIe Intel Nic card and attached a switch to it... I had some problems with the onboard nic. Also make sure in the firewall settings SAGEDCT has full access also Sagetv.
I was able to record to the NAS without VLC, but was getting the NO PICTURE, halts, etc. Having no problems with VLC to a local drive. I've opened up everything on the firewall I can think of.
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:47 PM
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I believe the author of SAGEDCT does not recommend recording to a NAS... maybe you can get someone that is actually recording to a NAS to chime in. I record to local drives using SAGDECT.
I do both. I have a box with a Ceton PCI card with SageDCT that records to a NAS (no VLC).

I also have a HDHR Prime with SageDCT running local to the server and recording locally (with VLC)

No issues with either.
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