Hauppauge Colossus HD-PVR

[mistergq]

Originally Posted by SHS

This is being address in the next driver update

Are you referring to the audio/video sync issues where with each commercial break, the audio loses sync with the video?

[SHS]

Originally Posted by mistergq

Are you referring to the audio/video sync issues where with each commercial break, the audio loses sync with the video?

I'm ref to Digital Audio still fake out with AC3 5.1 with no Audio being
recoding how ever no problem what ever using PCM mode and let it encoding in to AAC, thing is I'm using HDMI.

As for audio commercial break loses sync I think there also looking in to why it doing that as well.

[heffneil]

Isn't it time the HD Colossus got its own subforum under hardware? Going through 5 pages of posts to find an answer is challenging? Anyone agree (I ask since I know most will disagree )

Thanks!

Neil

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by heffneil

Isn't it time the HD Colossus got its own subforum under hardware? Going through 5 pages of posts to find an answer is challenging? Anyone agree (I ask since I know most will disagree )

Thanks!

Neil

I think it's time Hauppauge fixed it (with Sages' assistance) so this thread can stop - period.

[PLUCKYHD]

Originally Posted by SHS

no problem what ever using PCM mode and let it encoding in to AAC, thing is I'm using HDMI.

How are you doing this rencode?

[stevech]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

I think it's time Hauppauge fixed it (with Sages' assistance) so this thread can stop - period.

A Sage users' petition signed by many, sent to Prez of Hauppauge?

[SHS]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

How are you doing this rencode?

rencode none
Sat set to output PCM over HDMI and let Colossus encoding in to AAC

[phareous]

Originally Posted by stevech

A Sage users' petition signed by many, sent to Prez of Hauppauge?

I'd like to see a petition to tell Hauppauge tech support to stop ignoring SageTV users. Seriously...its pointless to email them because they either send a form letter or just plain ignore you. If there was another component/HDMI solution on the market, I'd do with that in a heartbeat.

[uberpixel]

We should have all seen this coming when they named it:

COLOSSUS

I mean when have you ever heard the term used in a positive way???

Usually I'm describing something as a colossal pile of $#%+...

I mean honestly.

-uberpixel

[jptheripper]

Seriously? Seriously..

I think more "colossal achievement"

Mine runs nearly 12 hours a day (straight), ac3 audio, no problems.

If it is that much of a problem, mail it to me, i'll take it of your hands. I am sure the stress relief will be well worth it.

I think we should get together to thank the Prez of Hauppauge for a wonderful, innovative, and stable product. And if you don't agree, feel free to purchase one of the many other products on the market that provides HD component capture with DD audio. Oh wait, , nevermind.

Originally Posted by uberpixel

We should have all seen this coming when they named it:

COLOSSUS

I mean when have you ever heard the term used in a positive way???

Usually I'm describing something as a colossal pile of $#%+...

I mean honestly.

-uberpixel

[uberpixel]

Okay, maybe "colossal challenge" is more like it.

I'm frustrated with the bugs that *some* of us are experiencing, but I recognize that trying to deploy hardware into this sort of environment carries a huge risk. Compare the environment we are working in with the controlled environment that major OEM set top boxes are deployed into and you can understand how a Motorola STB can run 24/7 for days on end without fail. They manage the risk by deploying into a more standardized environment and testing their hardware relentlessly until they are sure that it works. That comes at a cost - either in dollars spent or features lost.

Developing a card and drivers that can work correctly (and as advertised) among the seemingly infinite number of hardware and software configurations we are throwing at it must be quite a challenge. That said, *most* of the hardware I've purchased for my various computers over the years has worked out of the box without fail.

I'm not ready to give up on the Colossus yet. Here's hoping Hauppauge and SageTV can work together to make it a Colossal Success!

Originally Posted by jptheripper

I think more "colossal achievement"

I'm happy for you that your implementation of this hardware is working, but you need to recognize that there are many of us who are still having issues.

-uberpixel

[jptheripper]

Originally Posted by uberpixel

I'm not ready to give up on the Colossus yet. Here's hoping Hauppauge and SageTV can work together to make it a Colossal Success!

I'm happy for you that your implementation of this hardware is working, but you need to recognize that there are many of us who are still having issues.

-uberpixel

Agreed.

Conceded.

My only wish is a more positive outlook. This is a cutting edge implementation on a high end product. It is very successful. There is still issues. Lets help improve it from great to "colossal success".

[Vysrany]

I'm pretty new to this whole recording thing. In the last 2 weeks I picked up cable tv, setup my tuners and firewire tuning and have had mostly unstable results. When it works, it works well.

I started off with limited problems using 1 Colossus card. Every now and then the audio would start cutting out, and the video might stutter for a bit, mostly audio though. A nightly restart fixed the issue.

Then I added a 2nd Colossus card. The problem frequented itself more, but I could still manage with a nightly restart. I did notice random BSODs, but they were very rare.

And then I was crazy enough to add a HD PVR to the mix, and now I'm lucky to go 4 hours before I start seeing the problem. However, the BSODs come frequently now.

This all seems to be related to the memory leak in the drivers. I don't think it's really sage, because all these tuners are network tuners, and it only brings that box down. The other box that runs the actual server isn't being restarted and works fine.

I do notice that I can cause the problem to occur myself by channel changing a bunch of times.

Are other people getting BSODs? The audio cutouts in my recordings, frustrating, was ok, but the constant reboots drives me nuts. I can't do anything else on that box since it brings the whole machine down.

[stevech]

Originally Posted by Vysrany

I'm pretty new to this whole recording thing. In the last 2 weeks I picked up cable tv, setup my tuners and firewire tuning and have had mostly unstable results. When it works, it works well. ...
Then I added a 2nd Colossus card. .

Have you tried running with the HD-PVR and remove or disable the Colossus cards?

[Vysrany]

No, not yet. Maybe over the weekend if I find the time and have the desire to try and get it working. I'm just wondering if the different tuners and drivers are causing any additional conflicts. With the 2 colossus only + the nightly restarts, it seemed like a workable system.

[tvmaster2]

Originally Posted by phareous

I'd like to see a petition to tell Hauppauge tech support to stop ignoring SageTV users. Seriously...its pointless to email them because they either send a form letter or just plain ignore you. If there was another component/HDMI solution on the market, I'd do with that in a heartbeat.

I am all in favor of a "group" email to Hauppauge. They sometimes respond if you're persistent enough. They tend to respond when the Sage "brass" get involved as well, aka when Sage lets Hauppauge know they've had complaints and are interested in solutions.
How should we go about making them all aware (I can't believe Sage admins don't see these posts - they sure seem to see violations of forum policy) so all parties end up happy.

[stevech]

Hauppauge includes Sage in their "3rd party software referral list" on their marketing web pages - no doubt with permission. Indeed, where I looked, Sage was #1 in the list.

[FlyingDoc]

OK its 2:30 am and i give up ....

I have been trying to get Colossus running on a Win 7 HTPC.

After much loading and re-loading of drivers and machine restarts i was able to get the WinTV app to work.... but in Sage all i get is an problem rendering the video during the setup process and No signal if i try and use the video source. I must be missing something somewhere. I have also seen a message that says sage was unable to configure the softwaare encoder (or something like that) but i thought the card was doing the encoding in HW.

It really shouldnt be this hard !!!

I do have a couple of specific questions ....
Which driver should i be loading ... the one from the CD ,the one from Hauppage support site, the one specifically for WMC or another one?

what video decoder/renderer configuration is known to work with the card?
Is there some setting/configuration on the card i may have missed?

Note i am trying to use the component video and stereo audio at this point. I'll switch to the optical audio once i get it working.

Thanks in advance for your help

[Vysrany]

http://hauppauge.lightpath.net/softw...ssus_29111.zip is the driver I used. You can get it from their Colossus support page. I'm assuming you plugged the cables in properly since you got it working in WinTV. I managed to plug the cables in the output once and wondered why I wasn't getting video. Ooops.

I had problems watching videos recorded by the Colossus on one of my boxes. I had to change the renderer from EVR to VMR9. If I tried to use EVR I would have the video stream freeze and audio drop out. Oddly enough, WinTV worked with EVR, and Windows Media PLayer worked too. My other box had no problem using the default settings in windows 7 in any of those programs.

I talked to sage support for a bit about it. I'm still not sure why I can't use EVR in sage one box, but I didn't push back and further to figure it out. I rarely watch TV using that box so it wasn't a big deal to me.

So try that and see if it works.

[babgvant]

Originally Posted by tvmaster2

I am all in favor of a "group" email to Hauppauge. They sometimes respond if you're persistent enough. They tend to respond when the Sage "brass" get involved as well, aka when Sage lets Hauppauge know they've had complaints and are interested in solutions.
How should we go about making them all aware (I can't believe Sage admins don't see these posts - they sure seem to see violations of forum policy) so all parties end up happy.

why do you think Hauppauge isn't working on it? These sorts of problems can be difficult to track down, especially when you add in the complexity inherent with driver development.