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Old 01-06-2011, 12:39 PM
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Thing is cat6man USB has never been the most unreliability input.
Just look around at all older USB Hardware Encoder you see what mean it kind of gose like this 50% "NoProblem"/ 40% "Problem"/ 10% "CompatibleProblem or HardwareProblem" on reliability this should change becuase with PCIe it should be more 100% Compatible.
Only one of the Hauppauge product was very unreliability know Hauppauge WinTV PCI PVR the very frist PVR which was replace with PVR 250/350 model.
i've had many generations of hauppauge tuners (going back to my first analog BTV system) that used usb and they all worked great............i'm anxious to hear how the new pvr does when it is available..............i'll be in line to swap out my current units if they are rock solid (recording and liveTV)
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Old 01-06-2011, 02:06 PM
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I have no idea where you're getting the idea that full ATX boards are becoming rare. Just look at Newegg, there's a ton available.
Correct. It's probably about half atx and half µmatx. And if you go with newer solutions like Sandy Bridge, where you don't need a video card, you have 4 slots open for PCIx tuners.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:27 PM
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Correct. It's probably about half atx and half µmatx. And if you go with newer solutions like Sandy Bridge, where you don't need a video card, you have 4 slots open for PCIx tuners.
It was discussed earlier in the thread, but it's not that ATX boards are becoming rare, but ATX boards that have the onboard features considered required for most in this situation ARE rare. H55/57 boards with HDMI and Firewire on newegg: 4 μATX (available), 2 ATX (available) You can't even buy the before mentioned ASUS board from newegg without comboing with other items.
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Old 01-06-2011, 04:43 PM
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I buy my stuff at a shop called Canada Computers that has many shops in the Toronto area. There used to be several options to choose from when I built a PC a couple of years agos with socket 775. But now with socket 1156 the P7H57 was the only board that fit my needs. Sure you may be able to find them at online resellers but I don't find that physically putting a PC together (ie. screwing the mobo into the case, attaching all of the wires, the PC,e tc) is an efficient use of my time and this exercise can be frustrating and painful - cutting your knuckles on sharp metal edges inside the case. I generally pay the shop to physically install the components although I will usually install the OS myself.
I gave up buying PC components locally long, long ago, the selection is always pathetic and the prices exorbitant, and frankly the people that work there don't know as much as most of the people on this forum. You should be able to find a good online place that will build with the components you want.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:00 PM
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It was discussed earlier in the thread, but it's not that ATX boards are becoming rare, but ATX boards that have the onboard features considered required for most in this situation ARE rare. H55/57 boards with HDMI and Firewire on newegg: 4 μATX (available), 2 ATX (available) You can't even buy the before mentioned ASUS board from newegg without comboing with other items.
Firewire seems to becoming somewhat rare anyhow, at least for some manufacturers. Looking at the 1st round of ATX H67 boards, at least the Gigabyte board (GA-H67A-UD3H) should fit the bill.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:44 PM
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Sorry for the repost but I think my previous question got buried on the previous page. Looks like it will support "unencrypted HDMI sources"... what would constitute an encrypted source? And are most cable boxes considered an unencrypted HDMI source? My use case would be to hook up my cable box to the Colossus to use to capture any and all channels that I get.

I'm thinking about replacing my HD-PVR with this but I want to make sure that I can still record any and every channel on my cable box.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:49 PM
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what would constitute an encrypted source?
HDCP = encryption. If your cable box (or other video source) requires an HDCP-compliant monitor, then its HDMI output is encrypted and can't be captured by the Colossus.
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Old 01-06-2011, 05:53 PM
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@LehighBri: Said differently, you can pretty much count on every cable, satellite or phone company STB's HDMI output being encrypted. However, like the HD-PVR, you could use the component inputs on this device to capture your STB's output over component.
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:07 PM
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What would be cool is if you could change channels via the HDMI cable between the Colossus and the STB. That'd at least be a step in the right direction, even if you have to use component connection for video...
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:13 PM
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The press release mentioned recording gameplay from the Xbox 360, and video from digital SLR cameras over HDMI. Apart from that, I don't think there are a lot of unencrypted HDMI sources.
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:21 PM
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If we're lucky, Hauppauge is ahead of the curve and something may happen to make that HDMI input truly useful. (Not holding my breath, though.)
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:31 PM
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If we're lucky, Hauppauge is ahead of the curve and something may happen to make that HDMI input truly useful. (Not holding my breath, though.)
Keep in mind, that a LARGE part of the current HD-PVR user base bought the device strictly for capturing frag fests from PS3's and XBox360's. This will do that a little bit better by using HDMI instead of the analog component. Nevermind the fact that this thing is internal, with an HDMI passthrough output, meaning you could loop your desktop video through the thing, and capture PC gaming a LOT more efficiently than with something like Fraps.
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Old 01-06-2011, 06:44 PM
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Wow... not being a gamer in a long time, I hadn't realized how narcissitic gamers had become.
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Old 01-06-2011, 08:45 PM
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Look up any game on youtube, and see how many hits there are... then throw in machinima, and there is a LOT of recorded game content out there.
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Old 01-06-2011, 09:02 PM
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Well, I've been keeping a back-up HD settop box in case Sage crashed. It hasn't been used in a long, long time, and was probably only used once in the whole time I've had it. I was going to turn it back in to Cox; but, now, I may just keep it for a new addition to the system that will actually get used. Can't wait.
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SHS,

Any word on retail availability or Sage Store availability of the Colussus?

I was on vacation for 2 weeks. The HD PVR crapped out with the weird USB problem, and I lost a dozen first airings..
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SHS,

Any word on retail availability or Sage Store availability of the Colussus?

I was on vacation for 2 weeks. The HD PVR crapped out with the weird USB problem, and I lost a dozen first airings..
No word as of rigth now
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Old 01-07-2011, 09:03 AM
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Do we know if Sage will be supporting MPEG-2 encoding? My understanding is that the capability to encode to MPEG-2 is available in this device but it depends on the app to write in the support for it. Apparently Sage has announced they will be supporting this, but what about the MPEG-2 side?
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Old 01-07-2011, 11:53 AM
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Look up any game on youtube, and see how many hits there are... then throw in machinima, and there is a LOT of recorded game content out there.
The only thing more boring than playing some shoot em up game must be watching online somebody you have never met play the shoot em up game. Then again, maybe watching somebody play with their iPhone is more boring
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