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Old 02-20-2011, 10:12 AM
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Wow lucky you!!! What OS are you using, 32bit/64bit, etc..
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:44 AM
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I received my Colossus (two of them) Friday around noon. They come in OEM brown boxes with all cables + a high quality (and pretty long) component cable.

Capturing through the included Arcsoft Showbiz is great but so far no luck in Media Center or SageTV. Media Center gets stuck at Channel Scan when using the HD-PVR MCE beta drivers (as suggested by Hauppauge).

In SageTV, you can select Colossus in Add New Source, then you have -strangely- 8 possible inputs to choose from: Component, Component_2, Somponent+SPDIF, Component+SPDIF_2, Composite, Composite_2, S-Video and S-Video_2. Selecting any of them hangs SageTV in the "Please wait for the video preview to load." With some of the inputs I get "There was a Capture Error in playback. Details: ERROR (-5,0x80040207): There was a problem setting up software video compression."

I'll keep playing with it. I'm using the same drivers that are up in Hauppauge's FTP site. 02/15/2011 1.0.29046.0
You'll have to wait for the SageTv update to use it...
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:49 AM
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I've tried both 32 and 64, on clean installs. According to this we have to wait for a "minor update" to the driver to make it work on SageTV and a new beta driver for MCE.

For what it's worth, capture quality through Showbiz or WinTV is great.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:04 AM
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According to this we have to wait for a "minor update" to the driver to make it work on SageTV...
According to this, we're waiting for a minor update to Sage to make it work.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:12 AM
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I've tried both 32 and 64, on clean installs. According to this we have to wait for a "minor update" to the driver to make it work on SageTV and a new beta driver for MCE.

For what it's worth, capture quality through Showbiz or WinTV is great.
awesome to hear!!! a little disappointed its not coming with tme and arcsoft, but oh well.

were you capturing with analog or spdif?
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:48 AM
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awesome to hear!!! a little disappointed its not coming with tme and arcsoft, but oh well.

were you capturing with analog or spdif?
With SPDIF. And actually Arcsoft Showbiz is like a spruced-up version of TME, with three modules: capture, edit and produce. Very neat and intuitive, almost Apple-like. Version included is 3.5.17.70. It's way more responsive than TME, but maybe it is beacuse capture feels faster through PCIe than USB.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:22 PM
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It's way more responsive than TME, but maybe it is beacuse capture feels faster through PCIe than USB.
From this statement, I take it that you also have a USB HD-PVR.

How does the quality compare to the Colossus? Better, worse, or about the same?
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:36 PM
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With SPDIF. And actually Arcsoft Showbiz is like a spruced-up version of TME, with three modules: capture, edit and produce. Very neat and intuitive, almost Apple-like. Version included is 3.5.17.70. It's way more responsive than TME, but maybe it is beacuse capture feels faster through PCIe than USB.
I also received mine on Friday as well, but was unable to get SPDIF to work with WinTV. I can only get audio working with RCA selected...did you have any luck with SPDIF in WinTV? Although I am able to get SPDIF working fine in Arcsoft Showbiz.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:59 PM
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I received my Colossus (two of them) Friday around noon. They come in OEM brown boxes with all cables + a high quality (and pretty long) component cable.

Capturing through the included Arcsoft Showbiz is great but so far no luck in Media Center or SageTV. Media Center gets stuck at Channel Scan when using the HD-PVR MCE beta drivers (as suggested by Hauppauge).

In SageTV, you can select Colossus in Add New Source, then you have -strangely- 8 possible inputs to choose from: Component, Component_2, Somponent+SPDIF, Component+SPDIF_2, Composite, Composite_2, S-Video and S-Video_2. Selecting any of them hangs SageTV in the "Please wait for the video preview to load." With some of the inputs I get "There was a Capture Error in playback. Details: ERROR (-5,0x80040207): There was a problem setting up software video compression."

I'll keep playing with it. I'm using the same drivers that are up in Hauppauge's FTP site. 02/15/2011 1.0.29046.0
My guest would be is you need to wait for the SageTV update
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Old 02-20-2011, 02:23 PM
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I received my Colossus (two of them) Friday around noon. They come in OEM brown boxes with all cables + a high quality (and pretty long) component cable.

Capturing through the included Arcsoft Showbiz is great but so far no luck in Media Center or SageTV. Media Center gets stuck at Channel Scan when using the HD-PVR MCE beta drivers (as suggested by Hauppauge).

In SageTV, you can select Colossus in Add New Source, then you have -strangely- 8 possible inputs to choose from: Component, Component_2, Somponent+SPDIF, Component+SPDIF_2, Composite, Composite_2, S-Video and S-Video_2. Selecting any of them hangs SageTV in the "Please wait for the video preview to load." With some of the inputs I get "There was a Capture Error in playback. Details: ERROR (-5,0x80040207): There was a problem setting up software video compression."

I'll keep playing with it. I'm using the same drivers that are up in Hauppauge's FTP site. 02/15/2011 1.0.29046.0
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My guest would be is you need to wait for the SageTV update
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But serioursly, will we need a beta for HD PVR Colossus support?
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Yes you will...and you will get one soon.
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:36 PM
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Old 02-20-2011, 07:37 PM
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Sweet dude. Hopefully the Beta comes soon so all the lucky ones can start enjoying their Colossus boards.
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Old 02-21-2011, 09:12 AM
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I also received mine on Friday as well, but was unable to get SPDIF to work with WinTV. I can only get audio working with RCA selected...did you have any luck with SPDIF in WinTV? Although I am able to get SPDIF working fine in Arcsoft Showbiz.
Actually, it's the other way around for me. It works fine with SPDIF but I get no sound with RCA.

Also, WinTV Extend (2.3b) works great with Colossus for TV streaming even at the highest resolutions. On iPad/iPhone, it still needs a minor update to correct the fps but on a PC the streaming, LAN or Internet, works fine.

according to missingremote.com, the drivers for SageTV and MCE should be available on the next few days.
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Old 02-21-2011, 10:40 AM
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Actually, it's the other way around for me. It works fine with SPDIF but I get no sound with RCA.

Also, WinTV Extend (2.3b) works great with Colossus for TV streaming even at the highest resolutions. On iPad/iPhone, it still needs a minor update to correct the fps but on a PC the streaming, LAN or Internet, works fine.

according to missingremote.com, the drivers for SageTV and MCE should be available on the next few days.
Interesting...well I was able to get it working by re-installing WinTV from the Colossus support website vs using the software from the CD.

That is cool WinTV extends works with Colossus, I was thinking of trying to get that working with my droid.

That's good news...can't wait for the SageTV update!
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:58 PM
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Bad news, at least for me

New Colossus, brand new HP high end desktop, Windows 7 Ultimate 64, and lots of RAM. Still having micro-freezing issues when recording HD movies with SPDIF. The video quality seems better than HDPVR, but the freezing is still there, which makes the recordings pretty useless. And, to be clear, there is no freezing when I'm looking at the program direct from the STB.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:11 PM
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New Colossus, brand new HP high end desktop, Windows 7 Ultimate 64, and lots of RAM. Still having micro-freezing issues when recording HD movies with SPDIF. The video quality seems better than HDPVR, but the freezing is still there, which makes the recordings pretty useless. And, to be clear, there is no freezing when I'm looking at the program direct from the STB.
Then it must be a codec/decoding issue. What decoder are you using for playback?
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:15 PM
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The testing I've been doing was in the Arcsoft app for record, and I've been trying to play back with Windows Media Player. I was watching the record, real time, within the Arcsoft app, and I could see the stutter. I would then cease recording, and try to play back the segment, and the data was definitely missing from the recording. I'm not aware that there are any choices for decoder within the Arcsoft app (or, for that matter, within WMP). If you can kick me in the right direction, however, I would be thrilled to try anything you can suggest. I'm fairly technical (former professional software developer, but that was 10+ years ago - I'm a technology lawyer now), so feel free to provide technical detail if that would help.
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Old 02-21-2011, 01:36 PM
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trying playing the file in vlc or media player classic.

Also, have you tried different component cables? would hate to think the problem moved from hdpvr to colossus b/c you used the same cables.
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:29 PM
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You are using a BD player to convert movies through the HDPVR/Colossus? If that's the case what resolution are you using? If that is the case then what is probably happening is that the material on the BD disc is 24fps or 1080p24. This means that your BD player is either outputting 1080i30 or 720p60. In either case the player is having to convert the 24fps from the disc to 30 or 60 fps. Depending on how poor the conversion might be this could lead to notable stutters in the video, particularly in horizontal pans.

I don't use this method to convert my BD's. I have a BD-ROM drive and use AnyDVD and MeGUI to convert the video read as data off the disc rather than playing it through a stand-alone BD player.
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