Intel chipset + PVR-350 + OSD freeze-up not fixed?

[utica]

Downloaded the 2.0 release, installed and still freezes when turning on OSD for tv-out. Was this not fixed?

If not, there should be a "before you buy" caveat.....

[r1base14]

Actually, have you only had the lockups with the OSD enabled? I thought I had a problem with chipset compatibility, but it turns out that I think I have it properly diagnosed as a 350 overheat problem. Try using a trial of BeyondTV, which does not use the 350 tv out, and see if you get any lockups. I suppose you could also try running just the tv out enabled in sage, while disabling the osd out, and see if you get lockups. If you still do, then welcome to my world, whcih hopefully will be fixed with a fan for the heatsink of the 350.

Ryan

[utica]

This occurs with just the OSD turned on. I sent in a bug report when it was in beta and found others in the forum with Intel chipsets having a similar problem.

Since Linux/bttv/ivtv,mythtv,etc with OSD works, I assume that it is a Sage bug. It would be nice if they list all the bugs they did not fix.......

[r1base14]

Intresting. I'll letyou know what happens when I cool down my 350. If it fixes the lockups on my system, it may be worth a shot.

Ryan

[r1base14]

Intresting. I'll letyou know what happens when I cool down my 350. I have an intel chipset as well, 875p. If it fixes the lockups on my system, it may be worth a shot, you never know.

Ryan

[mlbdude]

Just an FYI, Linux does not use the drivers the same way (let alone the same drivers) as an application like Sage would have to do the OSD. In fact, with Linux you can output everything including the Linux desktop.

Frey is working with Hauppauge on trying to find a solution using the Windows drivers for these configurations so there is hope.

[Karen0302]

I have found the official 2.0 release to be much more stable as far as lockups are concerned than the RC2 I was using previously. I have been running for more than a day now with both UI on 350 Enabled and Hardware Decode Only Enabled without a single lockup.

I am still going to install the Card Cooler that arrived in the mail today. Stable or not, you can't really have too much cooling. <G>

Karen

[Deadbolt]

If you noticed..."All known bugs have been addressed" was dropped after RC1 or RC2....RC3 and shipping didn't make this claim.

Hmmmmm?

[aidandunne]

Hi,
I see the same problems with my 350.
Karen0302, can you tell me which cooler you are going to install?
Thanks
Aidan.

[metropole]

Please help me to understand.
With Sage 1.4 and the Hauppauge driver that I'm using I have no lock ups whatsoever.

With Sage 2.0 I will have lock ups and not enough cooling is to blame. What am I missing?

I had a long history with lock ups with Sage 1.4 until a certain version of the Hauppauge driver arrived. Prior to that I was also experimenting with additional cooling without success.

Can anyone use Sage 2.0 on an Intel board with the 350 and TV out not having any issues?

[Karen0302]

Aidan,

I am installing a gizmo called the Card Cooler. Here is a link www.thecardcooler.com


Metropole,

I believe the from reading here on the forum that the big difference is that V2 displays the user interface via the 350s TV Out.

Karen

[aidandunne]

Hi Metropole,
From scanning through the forum, some people seem to believe that OSD support is causing the 350 decoder to cause overheating; Other people blame it on using an intel chipset; others blame it directly on the SageTV s/w. I don't really know what the answer is but I suspect that OSD might be causing it to overheat.. not even an educated guess but it'll do for me!
One potential solution appears to be to divert all o/p through a separate video card.. Now I have no idea if the advice is correct because my machine was still not working right yesterday; I need to test it out myself. Either way, I think I'm going to get a card cooler for the hauppauge.
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[Karen0302]

Metropole,

I am running SageTV on a Gigabyte GA8-IHXP board which uses the 850E chipset. Since I installed the official version 2 release, I haven't had a single lockup.

Karen

[aidandunne]

Thanks, Karen. I was looking at that card as a possibility .. now if I can just get it before the simpsons on sunday.....
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[utica]

I have the "newer" Intel 865G chipset (ABIT IS-10 mnthbrd), anyone else have this chipset? How about 875?

Unless the pvr-350 over heats within 10 seconds of starting Sage, it is not the problem.

Regards...

[Karen0302]

Unless the pvr-350 over heats within 10 seconds of starting Sage, it is not the problem.

Just out of curiousity, why 10 seconds?

Karen

[aidandunne]

Hi
I'm using an 865PE Perll board.
What kind of temperature registers as "overheating" in your opinion, utica ?
put in an order for that fan.. in the meantime, I'm going to stick in the old noisy CPU fan that came with the CPU..see if it helps.
Thanks
Aidan.

[utica]

Karen,

the tv-out with OSD freezes within 10 seconds when starting Sage...just pointing out that it is not a heat problem. It takes less than 2 minutes to boot and I currently have the cover off; house temp around 70... I'll place one of my temperture sensors on the pvr-350 just to see the actual temp, but don't think it's my problem.

Regards....

[Karen0302]

Okay, now I see what you are getting at. A lot of the lockups people reported occurred when the 350 was performing both encoding and decoding simutaneously and that seemed to over heat it.

I tend to agree with you that locking up within 10 seconds of starting Sage is probably not a temp problem.

Thanks for the explanation.

Karen

[utica]

aidandunne,

Are you having the freeze problem while using tv-out and OSD on your PVR-350? I don't know what temp others are having that is causing their freeze problem, I believe that my problem has to deal with the combo of the Intel chipset + pvr-350 and using the OSD on tv-out.

Regards...