Is anyone else concerned?

[Fuzzy]

The reason to attempt reclock, is because it provides an easy way to control which rendering method is used (WaveOut, DirectShound, WASAPI).. ffdshow alone doens't support WASAPI yet.

[Striker:WG]

Originally Posted by Polypro

Why did you install Reclock if you are trying to bitstream to a receiver?

You followed these instructions, starting with the ffdshow section?:

http://www.missingremote.com/index.p...1&limitstart=3

(I would also just unregister ac3filter.ax if you are bitstreaming, and let ffdshow handle all audio).

Does bit streaming work for you in other applications? (PDVD, TMT, etc...)

I don't know why you are having so much trouble if your hardware is bit stream capable. Maybe AVS Forum would have more answers.

P

I installed Reclock as Fuzzy had suggested it could help andi didn't see how it could hurt, so I gave it a try.

I didnt follow that guide specifically but that is how I did the install and I do have it configured to passthrough. I have not unregistered AC3Filter, but I could certainly give that a try.

Bitstreaming works perfectly in other applications like MPC and PowerDVD. I currently watch all my Blu Ray titles in PowerDVD as it works.

-Striker-

[Striker:WG]

Originally Posted by Fuzzy

The reason to attempt reclock, is because it provides an easy way to control which rendering method is used (WaveOut, DirectShound, WASAPI).. ffdshow alone doens't support WASAPI yet.

I did see how I could control the rendering methods in the options in Reclock, but I never saw an option to select WASAPI. Is that something else I need to install before I can select it in Reclock?

-Striker-

[Fuzzy]

What OS are you using? WASAPI is only available on Vista and Win7. It is selected in the ReClock configuration, you'd select it for 'bitstream' formats.

[Striker:WG]

Windows XP Pro 32 bit edition.

-Striker-

[Fuzzy]

That may be the most limiting part of your setup, and where you experience the problems others don't. Win7 drastically improves media playback over XP - might be a worthy upgrade.

[Striker:WG]

I've been sticking with XP because of the lack of driver support for my Theater 550 tuner cards in Windows 7. I believe driver support stopped at Vista.

-Striker-

[shatter]

Originally Posted by Striker:WG

I've been sticking with XP because of the lack of driver support for my Theater 550 tuner cards in Windows 7. I believe driver support stopped at Vista.

-Striker-

You should be able to use Vista drivers on Windows 7.

[Striker:WG]

Well, I had some time this evening and I thought I might as well give Windows 7 a try for my Media PC and see what happens.

So I grabbed a spare hard drive off the shelf, swapped it into the system and installed a copy of Windows 7 x64 Ultimate edition.

I installed the following:

Cyberlink PowerDVD 9
FFDShow
Java
All available Windows 7 Updates
SageTV 7.23
Latest Windows 7 ATI Video Drivers for my video card
Latest Vista ATI Drivers for my Tuners
Ran the System Rating to ensure Aero was enabled

Shatter was correct, the Vista drivers worked with 7. I had been miss-informed by another individual who had the same tuner cards as me and had purchased different tuner cards when he moved to 7 because he couldn't get the Theater 550's to work due to driver issues. This may have been an issue at the time, but it has since been resolved (or he just couldn't install drivers).

Regardless, the main purpose of my 7 install was to test BluRay/BDMV playback in Sage with a clean OS, and supposedly better support for video playback in 7 over XP.

After 30 minutes of installing 7 and PowerDVD and 30 seconds of configuring Microsoft Windows Media Center I had full Blu Ray support with menus, digital audio bitstreaming, and Media Center skinned menus for interfacing with PowerDVD and no issues.

After 2 hours of installing Sage, FFDShow, and Java, re-installing all of the above, yelling at my PC, tearing at my hair, and trying every combination of settings in the Audio/Video setup of Sage I couldn't even get the BDMV to playback, all it would give me was a video rendering error.

There is something to be said for **THINGS THAT JUST WORK**.

If I didn't love so much other stuff about Sage I would have packed it in tonight and switched back to Media Center.

If I can give one suggestion to the Sage guys, for Version 8, please fix the out of the box experience! With a clean OS I should be able to install Sage and be up and running with little to no effort.

I honestly don't know why I'm having so many problems with this BDMV feature. I just want it to work I've been dealing with Sage support, and they are trying, but after 20 emails over 6 weeks, sending log files, trying different demuxers, dlls, drivers, filters, and video files I'm no closer to a solution than when all this started.

At this point now I'm just ranting out of frustration. For those of you still reading this thread, thanks for listening. For those of you who have posted suggestions, I do appreciate it. Hopefully a solution will eventually be found and some good will come of all this.

-Striker-

[nwboater]

I have just ordered the parts for a new Client HTPC build. It will run Win 7, Sage 7 and Blue Rays.

My old Dell XP is finally doing fine with HD TV - no BD.

I'm upgrading because I read so many comments about getting Win 7 - "It just works". But this thread is getting me a little spooky!

I may start another thread on recommended ways to set up my system for our hardware.

Rod

[Skirge01]

Originally Posted by nwboater

I have just ordered the parts for a new Client HTPC build. It will run Win 7, Sage 7 and Blue Rays.

My old Dell XP is finally doing fine with HD TV - no BD.

I'm upgrading because I read so many comments about getting Win 7 - "It just works". But this thread is getting me a little spooky!

I may start another thread on recommended ways to set up my system for our hardware.

Rod

Count how many threads there are like this. (Pssst: Not all that many.) Are you going to run into problems? Probably. But, you'll either figure them out on your own or someone online (somewhere) will get you through them.

Also, keep in mind there are threads like this. People who don't have problems generally don't take the time to post that fact. (Note that I haven't posted in that thread.) We're too busy tweaking other stuff or trying to help others out.

[nwboater]

Originally Posted by Skirge01

Count how many threads there are like this. (Pssst: Not all that many.) Are you going to run into problems? Probably. But, you'll either figure them out on your own or someone online (somewhere) will get you through them.

Also, keep in mind there are threads like this. People who don't have problems generally don't take the time to post that fact. (Note that I haven't posted in that thread.) We're too busy tweaking other stuff or trying to help others out.

Thanks very much for the link to the thread with ALL the happy users. And also thanks for the help "Somewhere".

I'm now feeling real good again about doing this upgrade! And I do hope that Striker:WG will be able to solve his problems soon.

Rod

[Striker:WG]

OK, so I revisted the Windows 7 upgrade and tried with a 32-bit flavor.

Installed everything and got it working for BDMV playback. The reason why my attempt at 64-bit didn't work was because I neglected to install AnyDVD-HD.

Now that I have a working Windows 7 installation with Sage 7 and BDMV playback and full bitstreaming HD Audio, i'm pretty darn happy!

Of course, nothing can go as well as planned.

The Theater 550 cards I mentioned earlier in this thread are not happy. I have seen them work in Windows 7, so I think its possible, but now they just go to a black screen but I can hear the audio still.

Everything is cabled, I've tried Overlay, VMR9, and EVR all with the same result.

Anyone have any thoughts or experience on the Theater 550 cards within Windows 7?

-Striker-

[panteragstk]

Originally Posted by Striker:WG

OK, so I revisted the Windows 7 upgrade and tried with a 32-bit flavor.

Installed everything and got it working for BDMV playback. The reason why my attempt at 64-bit didn't work was because I neglected to install AnyDVD-HD.

Now that I have a working Windows 7 installation with Sage 7 and BDMV playback and full bitstreaming HD Audio, i'm pretty darn happy!

Of course, nothing can go as well as planned.

The Theater 550 cards I mentioned earlier in this thread are not happy. I have seen them work in Windows 7, so I think its possible, but now they just go to a black screen but I can hear the audio still.

Everything is cabled, I've tried Overlay, VMR9, and EVR all with the same result.

Anyone have any thoughts or experience on the Theater 550 cards within Windows 7?

-Striker-

This is usually related to a decoder or driver issue. Try the ati 10.5 drivers with the ati video decoder. Those work great for me.

[rrhorer]

Originally Posted by Striker:WG

Anyone have any thoughts or experience on the Theater 550 cards within Windows 7?

-Striker-

See post #6 in this thread.