Problem with Sorting

[nyplayer]

If I look at a season of Charmed or any other series its shows the episodes in the right sequence. If i go deeper into the folder views the files are all out of sequence any way I can correct this.

Pics attached. The main Pic to the rightshows all the episodes correct but the files are all out of sequence. The files where in sequence before I downloaded the metadata.

[ChaOConnor]

Mine does this too, no idea why. Only happens on TV shows.

[MitchSchaft]

Mine does that even with the TVExplorer plugin .

[nyplayer]

Yeah Its driving me crazy thought I could live with it but I like watching my episodes when I get an opportunity makes it hard find the next one unless you play all and skip forward. I will see if re-indexing helps.



Edit : Definitely a bug in the BMT after removing the import folder and re-adding them.. The right side looks like this.

1. Charmed
2. Charmed
3. Charmed
4. Charmed
5..............

No episode names like my first screen above had them.... but 1 thing now at least the files are in the correct sequence.

[stuckless]

I speak about the sorting, since bmt doesn't do anything related to sorting.

But as for the last screen shot, showing all episodes as "Charmed", that would be correct as of bmt 4.2. The reason has been discussed in other threads, bu the simple answer is this...

bmt stores the Show Title in the Title field and the Episode Title in the EpisodeName field. Since Sage has no concept of TV files that are recordings, then it just shows them like regular video files. Hopefully another plugin will come along and add a presentation that will show both the episode name, episode id, etc.

In older versions of bmt, bmt would create a Title using title masks, so that the "Title" would show up as "Charmed S01E01 - Episode Title", but this is something that should be done in the UI and not in the metadata.

[Fuzzy]

Also, as I've mentinoed elsewhere, the sage default video library is just NOT well suited to episodic tv shows. You would be far better off moving them into the recordings half of sage, where it is much better suited, and has much more control of grouping and sorting (Malore, especially). I've got a plugin in the repository that can move the imported episodes into the recordings database, after BMT has given them the proper metadata.

[nyplayer]

I understand all this but why does the sorting by filename get messed up when the metadata is updated? for the first time and in order to correct it you have to remove and re-add the import directory.
... my initial post.

PS I really do not want my imported shows with TV shows where they can be easily deleted. I have the imports where they cannot be deleted unless you go in and change the option.

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by nyplayer

I understand all this but why does the sorting by filename get messed up when the metadata is updated? for the first time and in order to correct it you have to remove and re-add the import directory.
... my initial post.

PS I really do not want my imported shows with TV shows where they can be easily deleted. I have the imports where they cannot be deleted unless you go in and change the option.

FYI... The next release of the phoenix apis (probably not for 3+ weeks) will have an api, called, phoenix_media_GetFormattedTitle() (it's in the beta, unpublished builds now). This formatted title will behave similar to the legacy bmt title field, in that it will return a formatted title, on the fly, to a formatted title that use title masks. This way, a plugin author can simply change the GetMediaTitle calls in the STV with phoenix_media_GetFormattedTitle (ie, just a simply search/replace), and all your titles will magically show up correctly.

BMT/Phoenix will not provide this stv plugin... so hopefully some other plugin auther will use the API once it is available.

[jusjoken]

Let me know when you have a version of this new api to test with as I am working on an STVI to better handle TV shows within the Video Folder area of Sage.

[jusjoken]

I see you released a new version that has this function in it. Do you have any details or an example to use the api with a mask?

[stuckless]

Originally Posted by jusjoken

I see you released a new version that has this function in it. Do you have any details or an example to use the api with a mask?

From a STV, you can call, phoenix_media_GetFormattedTitle(MediaFile), where MediaFile is a sagetv mediafile object.

Currently there are 5 masks, which can be configured via the web ui or the phoenix-core plugin. The 5 masks cover the formatting titles for the following conditions...

1. Sage Recording
2. TV File with Season and Episode
3. TV File with Season and Disc
4. Regular Media File (movie, dvd, bluray, etc)
5. Regular Media File with more than one CD. (Movie cd1.avi, Movie cd2.avi)

The Title masks is basically a formatted string, that contains embedded SageTV fieldnames. For example the TV Season Mask looks like this...

${Title} - S${SeasonNumber:java.text.DecimalFormat:00}E${EpisodeNumber:java.text.DecimalFormat:00} - ${EpisodeName}

The format of a field is, ${name} or ${name:class:format}.
name is a sagetv field name
class (optional) is a format class
format (optional) is a format string

the format class and string is used for advanced formatting... ie, I wanted the Season and Episode #s to be formatted with leading 0s, so I used it there.

Some of the SageTV field names include
Actor
Description
Director
DiscNumber
EpisodeName
EpisodeNumber
EpisodeTitle
ExtendedRatings
Genre
IMDBID
MediaProviderDataID
MediaProviderID
MediaTitle
MediaType
OriginalAirDate
ParentalRating
Rated
RunningTime
SeasonNumber
Title
UserRating
Writer
Year

I should point out, that this API is still very beta, although the code has been around some time. It was originally contributed to the BMT project for a renaming files (although I forget by who, or else I'd credit the individual).

The Web UI shows the formatted title today, when you edit the metadata for an item. ie, when you are in that panel, and it shows in larger font, the title, it's actually the title computed using the GetFormattedTitle api.