Plugin: SageAlert v2.x

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by Slugger

Already in SageAlert. You have to click on Clients and then configure them for each client device. (I know, I know, trust me the docs are coming.)

sweet thanks... not sure how i missed that... glossing over the big "Starts Playback Edit" button

[iolaus]

Thanks for this awesome plug-in! Using a Windows version of wget and the REST API on my ISY-99i I'm now able to control the lights in my theater based on SageTV events.

On that note, I was hoping you might be able to add a Client event for Pause. It would be very helpful for my situation.

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by iolaus

Thanks for this awesome plug-in! Using a Windows version of wget and the REST API on my ISY-99i I'm now able to control the lights in my theater based on SageTV events.

On that note, I was hoping you might be able to add a Client event for Pause. It would be very helpful for my situation.

If you convince Sage to add that event to the core then SageAlert will support it. Currently, the core only supports PlaybackStarted and PlaybackStopped.

[wayner]

Originally Posted by iolaus

Thanks for this awesome plug-in! Using a Windows version of wget and the REST API on my ISY-99i I'm now able to control the lights in my theater based on SageTV events.

That's ingenous - can you post more details on how you do this?

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by iolaus

On that note, I was hoping you might be able to add a Client event for Pause. It would be very helpful for my situation.

I bet sage would add that if asked officially (its probably about 5 min of work for them)... so you should submit a support request

[iolaus]

Originally Posted by wayner

That's ingenous - can you post more details on how you do this?

Wayner, the process isn't too difficult actually. If you have an ISY-99i it provides a RESTful web API that allows you to control devices, scenes, and programs.

Utilizing wget for Windows, a command-line app that is able to make web requests, and a SageAlert Process Executor you can easily control the ISY (or anything else with a RESTful web API).

Here is an example Process Executor:

Description: Theater Movie Started
Executable: c:\Program Files (x86)\wget\wget.exe
Process Arguments: http://<username>:<password>@<isy.address.local>/rest/nodes/<scene node #>/cmd/DON

Then just go to your Client config in SageAlert and enable the "Theater Movie Started" checkbox in the "Starts Playback" settings.

Originally Posted by razrsharpe

I bet sage would add that if asked officially (its probably about 5 min of work for them)... so you should submit a support request

I just submitted a support request to SageTV. I'll let you guys know what I hear.

[wayner]

Interesting - I guess that since Sage (and sage extenders) can be controlled by html commands that you could also control Sage from light switches, etc, assuming that they could trigger wget. Although I can't think of too many instances of why you would want to do that. But perhaps it would make sense to pause playback on Sage if your phone rings - but that is not really part of a Home Automation system.

[iolaus]

I received good news regarding my SageTV support request today...

Ryan,

Yes, it'll be PlaybackPaused and also PlaybackResumed for when playback is
resumed after pausing.

Thanks,

George Oms
SageTV, LLC
http://www.sagetv.com


REQUEST DESCRIPTION: Would it be possible to add a SageTV event that fires
when media is paused? I'm utilizing the SageAlert plug-in to control my
theater lighting based on SageTV events and would like to be able to raise
the lights when content is paused. Discussion regarding this feature
request can be found here:
http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/show...&postcount=202

Thank you.

[Slugger]

Keep an eye out on the release notes of a future 7.1 beta of SageTV. When you see this feature added remind me with a post here. Once the event is added to the core it's rather trivial to make SageAlert support it. I just have to be reminded to do it when the time comes.

[Slugger]

Please note that the next update of SageAlert will break all client playback events. You will need to reconfigure all playback events. This is necessary because the next build breaks the playback events down by media type. So now you will be able to specify events for playback of specific media type (TV, DVD/BR, Import, Music). Because of this, you will need to configure the alerts for each separate media type. ETA is by next weekend (probably earlier, I'm running the build now and am not seeing any issues with it).

[iolaus]

Originally Posted by Slugger

Keep an eye out on the release notes of a future 7.1 beta of SageTV. When you see this feature added remind me with a post here. Once the event is added to the core it's rather trivial to make SageAlert support it. I just have to be reminded to do it when the time comes.

Here is your reminder:

Plugin System Updates
1. Added core plugin events for PlaybackPaused and PlaybackResumed (same variables as PlaybackStopped/Started/Finished)

Thanks!

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by iolaus

Here is your reminder:

Plugin System Updates
1. Added core plugin events for PlaybackPaused and PlaybackResumed (same variables as PlaybackStopped/Started/Finished)

Thanks!

Beat you to it. SageAlert 2.0.0.1399 (released the other day) has support for these events.

[war10ck]

This plugin looks interesting but I can't think of a reason i would want Sage to send me notifications.

I'm curious to know how other users are taking advantage of this plugin. Anyone willing to share?

Thanks

[razrsharpe]

basically get notification outside of the sage ui for system messages.... so recording failures, conflict warnings, system upgrades, plugin upgrades, etc

[Skirge01]

Also, it might be worth noting that many of us have the web interface set up, so we can react accordingly if a conflict happens. We also might have remote access to our server and/or client to do remote troubleshooting, particularly if the spouse/bf/gf calls with the infamous "Sage isn't working." (Those are always great to receive while at work.) With the alerts forwarded to us, we may already know about the issue when the call comes in. :-)

[larryf]

Is there a way to have Sagealert messages display on extenders? (Like Infopopup/Caller ID displays an incoming caller ID on the extenders).

I was watching a program on an extender last night, and had no idea a recording in progress had failed... A visual display on the extender would have been a big help.

Thanks,
Larry

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by larryf

Is there a way to have Sagealert messages display on extenders? (Like Infopopup/Caller ID displays an incoming caller ID on the extenders).

I was watching a program on an extender last night, and had no idea a recording in progress had failed... A visual display on the extender would have been a big help.

Thanks,
Larry

If there's a way to display a popup on an STV (or to do whatever the caller id plugin does) via Java then I'd be willing to write the SageAlert server type to do it, but I doubt there is. In order to do this, there has to be a way to invoke the popup via Java. I don't work with Studio/STVs at all so I really don't have any idea if it's at all possible from Java. Perhaps some others with that knowledge can chime in and let us know.

[razrsharpe]

Originally Posted by larryf

I was watching a program on an extender last night, and had no idea a recording in progress had failed... A visual display on the extender would have been a big help.

Thanks,
Larry

When your recording failed i believe you should have gotten a system message popup telling you there was an error in the recording. The message would have been one of the standard error messages

Originally Posted by Slugger

If there's a way to display a popup on an STV (or to do whatever the caller id plugin does) via Java

There probably is by setting a couple of variables with (AddStaticContext()) and then calling ExecuteWidgetChain(). You would just have to figure out what variables to set and Widget to call (i think fairly simple by examining the studio widget tree). I think the more tricky part would be getting the menu to launch in the correct context and which context to launch the message in (all UIContexts, only ones that are active, only the server context, only a specified context). I know pluckyhd did a fair amount of widget work in java in SMM so you might want to ping him for advice

[larryf]

Originally Posted by Slugger

If there's a way to display a popup on an STV (or to do whatever the caller id plugin does) via Java then I'd be willing to write the SageAlert server type to do it, but I doubt there is. In order to do this, there has to be a way to invoke the popup via Java. I don't work with Studio/STVs at all so I really don't have any idea if it's at all possible from Java. Perhaps some others with that knowledge can chime in and let us know.

I did a bit of digging, it looks like I may have found a way to make it work, but not very pretty...

The author of YAC has a 'command line' program called yactextsend. While the YAC server is running, I can run 'yactextsend test 1234' from the command line and have it display the words test 1234 on all the extenders. So it appears I can use sagealert to run an external program on alerts, have it run yactextsend (maybe from a batch file?). I don't know how I would pass a variable to the batch file via sagealert, so I guess it would have to be a generic 'alert' message.

There is a yactextsend example source code here
http://sunflowerhead.com/software/yac/
along with a software developers kit and the textsend program... I'm a hardware guy, hopefully someone here can look and tweek this a bit to work.

Larry

Edited to say: I see how a variable can be passed via sagealert's 'process executer'

[Slugger]

Originally Posted by larryf

I did a bit of digging, it looks like I may have found a way to make it work, but not very pretty...

The author of YAC has a 'command line' program called yactextsend. While the YAC server is running, I can run 'yactextsend test 1234' from the command line and have it display the words test 1234 on all the extenders. So it appears I can use sagealert to run an external program on alerts, have it run yactextsend (maybe from a batch file?). I don't know how I would pass a variable to the batch file via sagealert, so I guess it would have to be a generic 'alert' message.

There is a yactextsend example source code here
http://sunflowerhead.com/software/yac/
along with a software developers kit and the textsend program... I'm a hardware guy, hopefully someone here can look and tweek this a bit to work.

Larry

You can do it via batch. SageAlert sets a whole bunch of environment variables containing all the details about the alert. You can then call this exe with those variables. So in your batch program:

@echo off

C:\path\to\yactextsend "%SA_SHORT%"

There are a bunch of vars to choose from:

%SA_SHORT% - The short version of the alert message (there's also SA_MED and SA_LONG)
%SA_SUBJ% - The subject
%SA_SOURCE% - The source event that caused this alert to be triggered

Hopefully that gets you going in the right direction...