SageTV 7 beta starts on Thursday May 20, 2010!

[razrsharpe]

I don't know about moving the two directories back and forth... You might want to consider installing v7 on a different computer (or in a vm or in a different boot partition) for testing... The HD200 will connect to either one from the standalone menu so you should be able to test and connect to both.

That being said v7 has been really stable on my main system (no real recording or playback glitches to speak of)

EDIT: one thing to remember is the v7 wiz.bin is NOT compatible with v6

[impro]

Will 24p finally work in server and stand alone mode???
Or one of the other at least???
Very disappointing so far...


I hope 24p is finally fixed...

[razrsharpe]

ive had no problems with 1080p24 when connecting to the server (but then again ive never had a problem). I don't know if anything has changed in standalone mode because i dont use it.

Also the HD200 will now switch on framerate when native resolution switching is enabled (ie if you have 1080p24 enabled in the properties it will switch to that mode when playing a 1080p24 bd )

[Clift]

Originally Posted by stanger89

I'm curious, what should it be like? Maybe I'm not imaginative, but I'm not sure how else you'd do an EPG, at least not in any significantly different way.

Specifically, I've never been a fan of the multi-colored approach. I think it adds too much to the screen, besides that the colors don't seem to mesh very well. I'd rather see the color variations more along the lines of different shades of the same color. I think that would be more visually appealing. Like I said, I want to test drive it first. And, SageMC currently does it the same way but that's not necessarily a show stopper for me. Take a look at the 7MC EPG for what I mean:
http://www.icetv.com.au/images/products/Win7_EPG.jpg

[wayner]

As the orignator of this thread can I ask that we start a new thread entitled something like "SageTV V7 questions". The first 12 pages or so of this thread are no longer applicable.

[osburnfamily]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Stvi or skin. You can change some of it to some extent but not much by default.

Thanks Plucky. So is it correct (from the screenshots avail) that in the default stv, the menu is static with the cursor moving up and down?

(Feel free to say, "Just wait for the beta to come out and try it your damn self!"...)

[sic0048]

How long will the beta work before it expires? I think there is a 21 day trial period, but wouldn't that be on the Sage7 official release? Will the beta work until the fully Sage7 release is made available for sale?

[matt91]

I don't think I've seen anyone comment on the server resources for v7 compared with v6.

Any differences? Did any of the beta testers run it on a "medium horsepower" server?

[Smiley]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

I don't want to burst your bubble but with the new animation system layers are no longer used. It is a good thing though trust me I always hated those stupid layers. Now you simply code in order you want them on screen or use z offsets.

I hope that I can conclude from this comment that the SageTV Studio in V7 is more developer friendly because the 'programming language' (if one dares to call it that) is far from intuitive in V6, and that was always my greatest concern when updating plugins...

As far as the 'layers' issue addressed here, I was refering to layers in a more generic programming term as in 'UI Layer', 'Business Layer' and 'Data Access Layer'. I've taken the pragmatic approach and written all the business and data access logic in Java and put it in a JAR file, so hopefully that should be reusable

[Beefcake550]

Has anyone tried out using Channel Logos in the guide yet? I live and die by those. I don't remember channel numbers anymore.

-Brian

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by aflat

So for people looking to test before they roll to production, can I just back up my SageTV directory, then install v7, then move directories back and forth to switch from v6 to v7? How would the HD200's handle that?

I have a dual boot for such scenarios as well, but the hd200's are still in question.

Backup SageTV Directory and install V7.

To go back to V6,
Uninstall V7, Install V6 and copy the SageTV dirs from you backup.

The HD200s are fine.

[Khristopher]

Can anyone running the beta comment with regards to IR blaster functionality?

Right now I'm using LM Remote Keymap to control two digital boxes, and Sage's built in IR Blaster support to control one more (three boxes in total).

Anyone do an upgrade while using either type of blaster? Did it go ok?

[osburnfamily]

Does the MC IR Blaster work out of the box? PLEASE say yes!?!?!

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by Beefcake550

Has anyone tried out using Channel Logos in the guide yet? I live and die by those. I don't remember channel numbers anymore.

-Brian

Yes.

Have a look at the attachment.

[heffe2001]

They usually post up multiple betas, and well within the 21 day time-frame..

[trini0]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Some people will just always complain no matter what you give them it is never enough...

IMHO sage is ahead of the competition as far as well rounded htpc platforms.

+1

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by matt91

I don't think I've seen anyone comment on the server resources for v7 compared with v6.

Any differences? Did any of the beta testers run it on a "medium horsepower" server?

Pretty much the same resource wise.
Due to the performance improvements, I would dare to say that now it is not necessary to have a fast CPU unless you are doing a lot of transcoding with placeshifter and media mvps.

[Lucas]

Originally Posted by wayner

For those that are using the current beta - how stable is it? Would you use Sage 7 as your main system today, even if you have Wife and Kids Acceptance Factor to deal with?

Brent's post says that metadata is embedded in the file for recorded TV files rather than being stored in wiz.bin. Does this mean that the files types have changed from .mpg and .ts files?

I 've had V7 on the main system full time since the beginning almost. It is as stable and probably more stable than V6. My wife and kids use it.

You could use the old UI for wife and kids.

The file types are still the same.

[stanger89]

I've never had a problem with it.

[David G]

Originally Posted by PLUCKYHD

Some people will just always complain no matter what you give them it is never enough...

BS. First of all, Sage is not giving me this product, I'm paying for it. That entitles me to giving feedback and constructive (I hope) criticism*. If it meets your needs 100%, good for you. I too think it's the best htpc pvr solution out there, but that doesn't mean it's perfect - far from it.

Don't knock the complainers - they're the ones driving the product forward. When software stops evolving, it dies. So the fact that it's "never enough" for some people is actually a good thing.

* = come to think of it, I'd be entitled to criticism even if Sage was freeware. If you put your stuff out there, you invite feedback. So there.